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Old 23-09-2021, 12:28   #211
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In general, you think Trinidad is a good way to go?
There are only two paints I ever recommend and Trinidad is one of them.

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Will the 6" above the water mud crack?
I don't think so.
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Old 23-09-2021, 12:56   #212
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There are only two paints I ever recommend and Trinidad is one of them.



I don't think so.
What is your other top pick?

Hmmm... so if Vivid sux, perhaps a compromise that gets around my compatibility problem is to use an ablative over the ablative already in my CB trunk, (because I can not get the current ablative out).
Then, everywhere else... go back to using Trinidad paint, but sand and paint every 3 years, vs 9 this last time, with WAAAYYY too much ablative on there. It fell of in chunks, but as long as I used a Kevlar dive glove once a month, it worked a bit.

I have cruised my creations since the 70s, and always used Trinidad. I found it worked the first year, and some the second, then gave me a surface to wipe on once a month during season that third year. It was ok in 20+ countries, untill the country Trinidad. NOTHING works there. There... Even anchor rodes become 6" encrusted within weeks.

Thanks for the advice. Diving boats is HARD Fing work, and no one sees as many boat bottoms.
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Old 23-09-2021, 13:11   #213
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Re: What Is the Best Anti-Fouling Bottom Paint

In BOI, every paint seems to get barnacles after a few months. Even a guy with some TBT Thai stuff he sailed in with and then applied was bad after a few months.

Can’t really imagine the runoff is worse here than in NC, but they don’t actually test the water here much or at all!

Anyway, the Vivid is actually pretty popular here and it seems to be relatively hard. Maybe a different formula. I was going to use it as a waterline/boot stripe.

With all the sailing this boat does I seem to be wearing off the paint at 12-14 months since launching 7 years ago and I’ll be at 22 months next month although the bottom has been badly fouled all winter
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Old 23-09-2021, 14:49   #214
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Anyway, the Vivid... seems to be relatively hard.
Are you in the water, cleaning Vivid bottoms? If you were, you would never make that statement.
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What is your other top pick?
Interlux Micron 66. Not suitable for anything but saltwater however.
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I have been alongside boats with Vivid of the NZ variety. I agree it’s somewhat soft but not like what you are describing. I have rubbed with with a cloth from my dinghy. Will check it again when winds die down
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Re: What Is the Best Anti-Fouling Bottom Paint

The problem with hard bottom paints is that after 12 years you have to scrape it off and start over. Scrapping all that Petit Trinidad off was one of the most painful things I've ever done. I put one coat of hard on first and then 3 coats of ablaltive on over it. When I see blue it's time to paint again. My didver uses a t shirt to clean our bottom. If you sail enough you don't need a diver to do the job. I haul out every 3 years.
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Also, I have the problem that the travel lift straps pinch VERY hard on the amas, so the paint needs to be tough, hard, and bonded!
I had a similar problem on a boat with hard chines.

I ended up making some large 'chine protectors' first out of ply as a trial run and later out of aluminium bent to the correct angle (this worked better), lined with rubber, placed carefully when the straps were set in place, and held with lines up on deck just so they don't get lost.

They were a little fiddly but worked well to spread the load and prevent point loads and scuffing by the straps.

All in all worth the trouble to keep the new bottom job nice.

You could probably create something similar.

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I had a similar problem on a boat with hard chines.

I ended up making some large 'chine protectors' first out of ply as a trial run and later out of aluminium bent to the correct angle (this worked better), lined with rubber, placed carefully when the straps were set in place, and held with lines up on deck just so they don't get lost.

They were a little fiddly but worked well to spread the load and prevent point loads and scuffing by the straps.

All in all worth the trouble to keep the new bottom job nice.

You could probably create something similar.

Yep... tried carpet, plastic sheet, and 1" foam board, untill the turn at the bottom.
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Re: What Is the Best Anti-Fouling Bottom Paint

I like trinidad hard paint,red, I am wondering if some color other than a black bottom would stop the orca attacks, all the boats I saw had black bottoms
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Looking At Petit Odyssey Multiseason Ablative paint ? anyone tried it Florida Keys and Bahamas Crusing grounds
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Looking At Petit Odyssey Multiseason Ablative paint ? anyone tried it Florida Keys and Bahamas Crusing grounds
The Pettit Odyssey Triton I'm reapplying this season has out performed both the Trinidad Pro w/Irgarol, the Micron Extra w/Irgarol and some other crap that came with the boat. All in the Caribbean.
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What about Jotun paint for ships anyone use this? Im thing about getting some- its said it lasts 60-90 months ??

I have just bought 20 litres of red seaqueen 90, specified to last for 90 months on a fast moving ship.


We have seaqueen 60 on at the moment, two years, still good.


We are in a pretty bad area for fouling.


We cant buy Jotun non leisure Anti Foul products in the UK.



I managed to get some through a commercial outlet.


Not easy!
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The Pettit Odyssey Triton I'm reapplying this season has out performed both the Trinidad Pro w/Irgarol, the Micron Extra w/Irgarol and some other crap that came with the boat. All in the Caribbean.
Define "Caribbean." F.ex: the fouling rate in Florida far, far, waaaay.... outstrips, actually horizon jobs, the fouling rate in the Bahamas.
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