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23-04-2010, 17:04
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Vancouver, BC
Boat: Ta Chiao CT34 - 34' - The Brass Monkey
Posts: 81
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Wax Over Varnish?
I've heard a lot of conflicting information about this, and was wondering if anyone has any direct experience. The new varnishes have a lot of UV protection already, so is there any actual benefit to waxing over varnish? Some say it's a better shine (provided you avoid silicones, which will make refinishing very difficult, and stick to carnuba)... is this true? Could it provide a small measure of additional protection for that hard-won varnished surface?
Has anyone actually tried it?
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23-04-2010, 19:11
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
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Mind you that many 'waxes' also contain light rubbing/polishing compounds, in which a case you will be removing the gloss, and some varnish.
b.
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23-04-2010, 20:11
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Boat: 48' 1963 S&S yawl
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No. the wax will prevent adhesion of next year's coat unless you can thoroughly remove it. Better to scuff and recoat than mess with waxes. Most contain silicone which is very difficult to remove.
(and I do a lot of brightwork)
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23-04-2010, 21:57
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Vashon, WA
Boat: Haida 26', 18' Sea Kayak, 15' kayak, 6.5' skiff, shorts
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Really doing brightwork is not that bad. It is one of the most enjoyable boat projects I can think of.
If anybody needs help with brightwork in the Seattle area, I am your man.
If you pay me I might actually help you do it, too.
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23-04-2010, 22:10
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: sausalito
Boat: 14 meter sloop
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a reply in verse
not wax,
at least not CnH2n+2,
also known as "paraffin."
The best compound for brightwork is dynamite,
C3H5(NO3)3,
also known as "nitroglycerin."
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23-04-2010, 22:27
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Vashon, WA
Boat: Haida 26', 18' Sea Kayak, 15' kayak, 6.5' skiff, shorts
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If you don't enjoy heat guns, scrapers, and tiny brushes, just varnish as normal, then apply the titanium of exterior finishes. White paint.
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24-04-2010, 04:04
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Fernandina Beach, FL
Boat: Island Packet 380 - Delta Blues
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This is going to sound counter-intuitive to some, but I apply two coats of Cetol Marine Gloss over varnish. That's the part B stuff of the Cetol process, not the original stuff that looks awful, in my opinion. It goes on clear and protects the finish much like wax.
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24-04-2010, 19:13
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Boat: 48' 1963 S&S yawl
Posts: 851
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What a bunch of pu$$1es .
Scuff with scotchbrite, wipe with a spirits dampened rag, coat= Really pretty.
With a decent varnish it lasts a year- repeat.
Beauty requires effort- no way around it a far as I've found.
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