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Old 23-04-2010, 17:04   #1
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Wax Over Varnish?

I've heard a lot of conflicting information about this, and was wondering if anyone has any direct experience. The new varnishes have a lot of UV protection already, so is there any actual benefit to waxing over varnish? Some say it's a better shine (provided you avoid silicones, which will make refinishing very difficult, and stick to carnuba)... is this true? Could it provide a small measure of additional protection for that hard-won varnished surface?

Has anyone actually tried it?
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Old 23-04-2010, 19:11   #2
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Mind you that many 'waxes' also contain light rubbing/polishing compounds, in which a case you will be removing the gloss, and some varnish.

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No. the wax will prevent adhesion of next year's coat unless you can thoroughly remove it. Better to scuff and recoat than mess with waxes. Most contain silicone which is very difficult to remove.

(and I do a lot of brightwork)
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Really doing brightwork is not that bad. It is one of the most enjoyable boat projects I can think of.

If anybody needs help with brightwork in the Seattle area, I am your man.

If you pay me I might actually help you do it, too.
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not wax,
at least not CnH2n+2,
also known as "paraffin."

The best compound for brightwork is dynamite,
C3H5(NO3)3,
also known as "nitroglycerin."
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If you don't enjoy heat guns, scrapers, and tiny brushes, just varnish as normal, then apply the titanium of exterior finishes. White paint.
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This is going to sound counter-intuitive to some, but I apply two coats of Cetol Marine Gloss over varnish. That's the part B stuff of the Cetol process, not the original stuff that looks awful, in my opinion. It goes on clear and protects the finish much like wax.
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What a bunch of pu$$1es .

Scuff with scotchbrite, wipe with a spirits dampened rag, coat= Really pretty.

With a decent varnish it lasts a year- repeat.

Beauty requires effort- no way around it a far as I've found.
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