Silicone Bottom Paint

[Jimske]

There are a few companies that have been manufacturing and selling a high solids "siliconized" bottom paint. Some are two parts and some are one part. One such company has a product called Aquaply M. Anyone have experience with it? Marine paint, boat paint, epoxy, and marine coatings product. Aquaply M info page. Environmentally safe and long lasting.

[senormechanico]

It sounds to me like a version of KissCote from about ten years ago.
It was a $$$ tiny bottle of stuff you rubbed all over your existing bottom paint.
It worked for a short time, but required reapplication.
It faded from the internet a short time later.

[tomfl]

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[Jimske]

Originally Posted by senormechanico

It sounds to me like a version of KissCote from about ten years ago.
It was a $$$ tiny bottle of stuff you rubbed all over your existing bottom paint.
It worked for a short time, but required reapplication.
It faded from the internet a short time later.

I think not. This stuff is a 2 part and 100% solid.

[rwidman]

Originally Posted by Jimske

There are a few companies that have been manufacturing and selling a high solids "siliconized" bottom paint. Some are two parts and some are one part. One such company has a product called Aquaply M. Anyone have experience with it? Marine paint, boat paint, epoxy, and marine coatings product. Aquaply M info page. Environmentally safe and long lasting.

Wouldn't it be impossible to paint over in a few years or if it didn't work?

[travellerw]

Originally Posted by rwidman

Wouldn't it be impossible to paint over in a few years or if it didn't work?

My exact thoughts.. I HATE silicone on anything. If you ever want to paint something again silicone sucks..

Although they do have "siliconized" caulk that is paintable, so maybe...

[Jimske]

Some of this stuff supposed to last over 7 years. Apparently damage from collission could just be re-applied to the effected areas but . . .

But then suppose you want to return to traditional I guess you'd have to sodablast it off. How about Boat bottom paint & epoxy coatings for marine, O & G, wastewater and power.

I don't think this stuff is much like silicone we keep around the house.

Some of this stuff supposed to have been around for awhile.

J

[Hydra]

Originally Posted by Jimske

There are a few companies that have been manufacturing and selling a high solids "siliconized" bottom paint. Some are two parts and some are one part. One such company has a product called Aquaply M. Anyone have experience with it? Marine paint, boat paint, epoxy, and marine coatings product. Aquaply M info page. Environmentally safe and long lasting.

From the website, it seems that this product is epoxy, not silicone.

Alain

[Jimske]

Originally Posted by Hydra

From the website, it seems that this product is epoxy, not silicone.

Alain

Yeah, we don't have a chemical analysis. I'm not a chemist. I imagine hese products fit in a category of copolymers and siloxanes and are "siliconized" somehow since they seem to be quite slippery.

Since they are touted as green with no biocides they could be an important development. Apparently they are already being used on freighters.

J

[fstbttms]

Aquaply M and similar coatings are not new, they have been in use for years. Maybe decades. There are two main problems with these coatings, IMHO:

1.- They have zero anti fouing properties. Therefore they require very frequent in-water hull cleanings when used on most pleasurecraft.

2.- Most boatyards want nothing to do with these products. They require special handling and application techniques. Contamination of nearby traditional anti fouling paint application projects is a major concern.

For these (and other reasons), they are almost never used in the recreational boating market.

[Jimske]

One company contended that the bottom was basically self cleanng at movement of 8 or more knots: Dutch Durable Coatings

and another: http://www.seacoat.com/pdfs/SeaCoat%...0VMT%20DIY.pdf was supposed to send me samples but I never got them and last time I called got no return call.

For me with a shallow draft trimaran frequent cleaning wouldn't be a burden unless it was something that had to be done every week or two.

I guess if any of this stuff had a successful history on sailing vessels we'd know about it.

[fstbttms]

Originally Posted by Jimske

For me with a shallow draft trimaran frequent cleaning wouldn't be a burden unless it was something that had to be done every week or two.

As a member of the Board of Directors of the California Professional Divers Association, I can tell you that we have been involved with non-toxic anti fouling coating product testing in Southern California. Our experience is that you typically need to clean these products twice as frequently as copper-based anti fouling paints. In SoCal, that means cleaning at least every two weeks.

Originally Posted by Jimske

I guess if any of this stuff had a successful history on sailing vessels we'd know about it.

Bingo.

[rwidman]

A few years ago there were ads for a bottom paint that was supposed to act like the skin of a fish. The ads said something like "Ever see barnacles on a fish?".

I haven't seen the ads lately. I wonder what became of the company and how the product worked out (if anyone even tried it)?

[PamlicoTraveler]

Originally Posted by fstbttms

a. Our experience is that you typically need to clean these products twice as frequently as copper-based anti fouling paints. In SoCal, that means cleaning at least every two weeks.

If that isn't a deal-breaker, I don't know what is.

[Jimske]

Originally Posted by PamlicoTraveler

If that isn't a deal-breaker, I don't know what is.

Yeah and perhaps more so in warmer waters?