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Old 14-07-2020, 04:06   #1
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Remote Oil Filter... need some jargon explained

I have a 1982 Universal M-40 Diesel engine in my sailboat, and changing the oil is an absolute nightmare. It is almost completely impossible to reach the oil filter in the tight space of the engine room from the back of the engine, and completely impossible to reach it from the front.

I'm actively looking for some remote oil filter kit so I can mount the filter on the engine room wall next to the engine for (much) easier access... but it seems clear that there is no "official" Universal part/ kit for the M40 to do so.

That being said, it's a fairly common oil filter size, and it seems like it shouldn't be difficult to find a compatible Universal part for this... but there's a lot of jargon I just don't understand.

For example, I've seen "Universal, Filter, Remote Lube Oil 8Dpr, 256943", "Universal, Adapter, Remote Oil Filter, 301760", various westerbeke remote oil filter kits, brackets, 4bg1, 6bg1... no clear pictures, no easy way to determine what would be compatible with my particular engine... and it's a lot of money to guess.

What should I be looking for to ensure compatibility?
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Old 14-07-2020, 06:00   #2
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Re: Remote Oil Filter... need some jargon explained

I had the same problem when I replaced the original Lehman engine with a Yanmar: the oil filter was on the other side of the engine and almost impossible to access. I asked all the various marine mechanics for a remote filter kit without any success at all. One day, I happened into a NAPA store, and found out they had all kinds of remote filter kits for $30. I spent way more money on the hoses and plumbing fittings from Parker-Hannefin.
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Old 14-07-2020, 06:09   #3
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Re: Remote Oil Filter... need some jargon explained

As far as I can tell your engine year is right on the model break between a Kubota V1501 and V1502. One of those numbers should be cast into the engine block.

Also as far as I can tell, it probably doesn't make any difference; seems they use the same oil filter, which has a thread size of 3/4" - 16, which is the key dimension you need, though there could conceivably be some kind of clearance issue specific to your application.

Likely the kit available from these people will work fine, but give them a call to verify.

https://www.etrailer.com/p-D15748.html
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Old 14-07-2020, 07:01   #4
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Re: Remote Oil Filter... need some jargon explained

That looks about perfect. I looked up the spec on my oil filter, and you're right, it's 3/4"-16 which this filter kit will fit. That really cleared up a lot to me, thanks!
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Old 14-07-2020, 07:28   #5
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Re: Remote Oil Filter... need some jargon explained

While the thread size is very important, so is the diameter of the face flange or seal. The diameter of the adapter should match the filter.
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Re: Remote Oil Filter... need some jargon explained

If it is a Kubota V1501 there is defiantly a kit, I had one from Beta Marine in the UK. They could probably tell you what you need
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Old 14-07-2020, 11:41   #7
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And it may (or may not) be made of more marine-grade materials, at least than the one referenced. The one I got from Volvo to fit a larger engine made in house by them appeared to be made of nothing-special aluminum
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Re: Remote Oil Filter... need some jargon explained

I fitted one on our Kubota genset.
Couldn't get the on engine adapter plate to stop leaking.
More effort cleaning up spilt oil than there was in removing hard to access filters so got rid of it.
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Re: Remote Oil Filter... need some jargon explained

A Kubota tractor dealer would be a good place to start.
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Re: Remote Oil Filter... need some jargon explained

I recently had the same issue for my very old Ford 80 HP engine. After spending time talking to local engineers I finally gave up.
Getting a mounting was hard enough, but the requirement to use the correct hoses was another nightmare. Finally, if I had gone ahead (and it was certainly going to be expensive) the resulting plumbing from a vibrating engine to the engine room wall was going to be a headache.
So I had a further look at the oil filter which is engine mounted. Mine is a canister which is removed and the oil filter inside is replaced. It is not a spin on type.
The problem with oil spills was that the canister was sloped at 45 degrees and when loosened, it always spilled oil into the bilges.
So I had a drain and an air inlet made onto the cylindrical canister wall. These fittings are the smallest I could get and are soldered or welded on so there is no leaking. (Put in by my local radiator repair chap. About $100 all up.)
The drain is near the bottom and the air inlet is at the top. When I need an oil filter change, I hold a plastic container under the drain outlet, open both valves and let the oil drain from the canister into the container. In other words, I control the removal of the oil from the filter. After the draining has stopped, I close the two valves and remove the canister and then the internal filter.
To date, this has worked well. It cost a fraction of the price of the external mounting arrangement and there is no extra plumbing. It is compact.
If you have the standard spin on filter then this won't be of much help. The process still involves a little access gymnastics for an old bloke, but it is certainly clean and workable.

I also have a Yanmar 1 GM engine (sans gearbox) which I use to run compressors, water pumps and a 240 VAC alternator. It has a spin on horizontal oil filter. An old engineer showed me how to remove these and not make a mess. You need a hammer, a solid screw driver and a plastic container. Hold the plastic container under the filter, then drive the screw driver through the higher side wall of the filter. Use the inserted screw driver to rotate the filter. This can break the seal and let a little air in. Move the screw driver around until the driver is positioned above the container. Slowly remove the screw driver and then let all the oil drain out of the screw driver hole. i.e you can control the oil flow. Then remove/replace the filter. There are variations on this. e.g. where you punch the initial hole and also using a second hole to let air in faster.

On this dinky little engine, I can access the bottom and I have built in a manual valve with a hose at the sump drain. So for oil changes, I can now completely drain the engine. This works well, but could be near impossible for many many larger engines, but, food for thought.
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Re: Remote Oil Filter... need some jargon explained

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As far as I can tell your engine year is right on the model break between a Kubota V1501 and V1502. One of those numbers should be cast into the engine block.

Also as far as I can tell, it probably doesn't make any difference; seems they use the same oil filter, which has a thread size of 3/4" - 16, which is the key dimension you need, though there could conceivably be some kind of clearance issue specific to your application.

Likely the kit available from these people will work fine, but give them a call to verify.

https://www.etrailer.com/p-D15748.html


That looks very clever. I almost wish my filter was inaccessible so I could justify the conversion.
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Car folks use them all the time,


https://www.jegs.com/c/Oil-System_Oi...10467/10002/-1
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