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04-12-2020, 10:25
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Lisbon, Portugal
Boat: Challenger Export, 24 ft
Posts: 3
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Refitting traveler and tackle
Jean-Luc van Den Heede on his Mamut, a Rustler 31", replaced the traveler and tackle by these two tackles.
This is the first and only time I saw this arrangement. What you experienced guys think of it?
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04-12-2020, 10:31
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Austin, TX
Boat: Venture 25 / Tayana 37
Posts: 179
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Re: Refitting traveler and tackle
The pic isn't super clear, but is it just a twin mainsheet on the back of the boom? If so, it's pretty common, actually.
Some people love 'em, some prefer a traveller. There are pros and cons to each set up.
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04-12-2020, 14:42
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Noank, Ct. USA
Boat: Cape Dory 31
Posts: 2,164
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Re: Refitting traveler and tackle
As mentioned previously it’s nothing new. I have mid-boom sheeting to a traveler. When I venture offshore I use that system since it acts as a preventer. I attach to the base of a midship stanchion and to a mid-boom bale. Very secure and I always have the boom in complete control from two opposing locations. Snap shackles on the attachment points allow me to release in an emergency.
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04-12-2020, 15:24
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Solent, England
Boat: Moody 31
Posts: 14,498
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Re: Refitting traveler and tackle
Barry off Adventures of an Old Seadog on YT has this arrangement. He asked about it in one of his early videos and then went for it sailing half way around the world.
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04-12-2020, 15:29
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Southport CT
Boat: J/36
Posts: 1,579
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Re: Refitting traveler and tackle
Look up "German sheeting" too.
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05-12-2020, 10:56
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: ME, TCI, On da boat
Boat: Pearson 323, Tayana V42CC
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Re: Refitting traveler and tackle
I ran my boat that way for a couple of years. Has it's plusses and minuses. A bit more cumbersome to use than a traveler and vang and it gets "fussy" to fine trim it but you can put the end of the boom pretty much anywhere in two dimensions. Not my first choice for tacking up a channel though.
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05-12-2020, 15:37
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Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: SNJ / BALT
Boat: Irwin 38
Posts: 42
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Re: Refitting traveler and tackle
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05-12-2020, 18:20
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: san diego CA
Boat: Kirie Elite 37 tall rig
Posts: 10
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Re: Refitting traveler and tackle
But why?
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05-12-2020, 19:32
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Southport CT
Boat: J/36
Posts: 1,579
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Re: Refitting traveler and tackle
Idle hands make Devil's work: it gives the cockpit crew something to do on every tack.
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05-12-2020, 21:14
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Deale, MD
Boat: PDQ Altair, 32/34
Posts: 7,744
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Re: Refitting traveler and tackle
Quote:
Originally Posted by psk125
Idle hands make Devil's work: it gives the cockpit crew something to do on every tack.
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In fact, if you sail to weather with the boom centered... no. You just tack the jib.
I've sailed with both systems, on the same boat. The both worked well and were pleasant and functional.
- It is a jury rig that every sailor should understand. Travelers do fail.
- Some like it better, some hate it. It is different, but not better or worse, depending on the boat.
- You will see them on some performance boats (Chris White cats, Neel tris). Don't assume it is a slow boat, heavy cruiser thing.
Personally, I prefer the traveler type.
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06-12-2020, 06:37
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Little Compton, RI
Boat: Cape George 31
Posts: 1,550
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Re: Refitting traveler and tackle
I sailed thousands of miles with a setup like this, then switched to a single sheet system with blocks at either side of the cockpit. Either way, no traveller--I can't stand 'em.
The double setup has only a slight advantage in control, but you have twice as much line mucking up the cockpit, and you have to feed two tails out when sheeting out.
My current setup has worked best-sheeted tight, the boom will self tack when beating, but is under perfect control.
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06-12-2020, 12:48
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Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Long Beach, CA
Boat: Tayana Vancouver 42
Posts: 2,533
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Re: Refitting traveler and tackle
I once had a shackle break on my main sheet traveler and use twin preventers in this way to get things under control until I was able to replace the failed shackle. Good to know how in an emergency but not as convenient as the traveler and a single main sheet.
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