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Old 13-11-2012, 17:45   #1
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Possible Leaks? Water Getting Into Bilge

finally got my catalina c27 home from tarpon springs to hernando beach. it never took on water for the week it sat at the dock in tarpon. while sailing home the first day, the bilge filled about 3/4 full of water twice. that night i got the keel stuck in soft mud in hudson while trying to go up the channel with a low tide. while waiting for the tide to rise an fwc officer flew past me full plane about 15 feet from my boat making it bounce the keel off the bottom twice. not terribly hard but still. now today on the 3 hour trip i had to empty the bilge 3 times, and each time it was also completely filled with water.

is it possible to find where the leak is coming from? more likely to be in fiberglass or the bolt holes where the keel attaches?
boat only takes on water while underway. any ideas why?

i love this boat but this was a hiccup i did not anticipate. any help is appreciated.
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Re: possible leaks? water getting into bilge

Were you motoring? With an engine that might be leaking?

Were you sailing... heeling, in a way that might put a thru-hull, that is normally above the waterline, below the waterline? The head perhaps?

If it were your keel bolts they would leak all the time, I imagine.
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Rudder stuffing box?marc
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Or, loose Packing gland for the prop shaft (if she's an inboard)?
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Re: Possible Leaks? Water Getting Into Bilge

Is it salt water?
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Re: Possible Leaks? Water Getting Into Bilge

I am assuming it is salt water in the bilge...

If so it is most probably your packing gland for the prop shaft, as Hynylte said...

Look in the engine compartment and see if there is water under the engine. Or look into the inspection hatch in the quarter birth, which will give you a good view of the packing glad. It should only be making a couple of drips a minute, at most.

I owned a C-27 for 8 years and this was the only place salt water ever intruded.

If it is not the packing glad, check the engine hoses and the remaining thru hulls.

If its not the packing gland or anything else, I would suspect the keel, but you would have had to take a terrible hit to cause water intrusion and then it should leak all the time, not just underway.
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Re: Possible Leaks? Water Getting Into Bilge

Dust the bilge with talc? Prevents chafe, and also might help find the leak, if it's a hard one to find.
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I am assuming it is salt water in the bilge...

If so it is most probably your packing gland for the prop shaft, as Hynylte (?) said...
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Re: Possible Leaks? Water Getting Into Bilge

Shaft seal or water inlet for engine. Mine was the opposite. I was taking on about 50 gallons a day at the dock. Got the engine running and then spun the shaft a while underway on the way to the yard to get pulled. That weekend in the lifting basin the bilge pumps didnt engage at all . bilge driest it had been in a since I got it. I was so used to the pumps cycling I thought they were broken.
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as said, stuffing box or your keel is loose.
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Re: Possible Leaks? Water Getting Into Bilge

I hadn't thought of the shaft since the inboard has been removed, but it still has the shaft running through the hull. The dockmaster suggested trying the drain by the back, as it sits lower and can allow water intrusion while underway.

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I hadn't thought of the shaft since the inboard has been removed, but it still has the shaft running through the hull. The dockmaster suggested trying the drain by the back, as it sits lower and can allow water intrusion while underway.

thanks guys
SO... You didn't get the inboard...but you got the shaft?
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