Poll: Turnbuckles

[Alton]

Open body turnbuckle vs. Closed body turnbuckle

[s/v 'Faith']

Open.

I would loose sleep wondering what was happening inside the barrel of a closed turn buckle's barrel.

[Christian Van H]

ANY of these: Garhauer Marine Hardware -112481

[Alton]

ALEXANDER-ROBERTS. what about this brand? I can get a good price.

[barnakiel]

Hasselfors chromed bronze body and stainless steel ends. Would love to try the bronze / bronze one day but have seen them only on some classics. Anybody knows a maker of good bronze hardware ?

b.

[GordMay]

Turnbuckle bodies in forged bronze alloy (finished in polished chromium), with stainless steel ends aren’t uncommon.

Sta-Lok
➥ STA-LOK Terminals Ltd - Marine - Turnbuckles - Turnbuckles & Rigging Screws

Hayn Marine
➥ Forged Bronze Turnbuckles by Hayn Marine

[mesquaukee]

Avoid anything that can hide seawater which will eventually evaporate and leave salt deposits. Corrosion never sleeps.

[barnakiel]

Ya, but who makes bronze / bronze ones?

b.

[Jmolan]

I prefer no turnbuckles.......no worries! Back to the future. Wire is dead...:-)

[barnakiel]

Wire is dead, except for a traditionally designed GRP monohull ....

;-)

b.

[Jmolan]

Originally Posted by barnakiel

Wire is dead, except for a traditionally designed GRP monohull ....

;-)

b.

I have no intention of hijacking this thread. I will just give some facts.

A Westsail 32 was just fully outfitted, even the bowsprit and boomkin. (it will be at the Annapolis boat show) All Dynex Dux and Colligo fittings by Brian Duff.
Rigging

A 56' Schooner in Chesapeake save 600 lbs. from his rig using dynex dux. Brion Duff rigger.
A 33' Ranger was done entirely in Dux using turnbuckles. By traditionalist Brion Toss (who was rigging another big wooden mono this weekend with Dux) The Ranger owner is thrilled.
A new race/cruise boat done in Argentinian in Dux, another on the way.
A 1936 wooden sloop done entirely in Dux. The boat owner is a rigger. He reports taking up one turn on his top turnbuckles in one year. His story is here.
http://www.strongrope.com/news.htm

These are all facts. I listened to a presentation by Brion Toss this weekend in Port Townsend Wood Boat show. He said, when discussing rigging (and boats) You are all entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.

Photo of Brion Toss looking through a new Colligo eye.....

Brion Toss Yacht Riggers, Sailboat Rigging

Home

Spliced to Dynex Dux...a whole new way of looking at it. It is going on a 48' wooden Mono "Island Girl" bound for the pacific in just a few days

[barnakiel]

I don't buy it:

- how has chafe from other elements of rigging been addressed?
- how has UV damage issues been addressed?
- why should I use a wire twice the dia of the 1x19?
- are the terminal eyes designed to be tensioned with turnbuckles ...
- what is the price difference (I mean - inclusive of relevant depreciation).
(...)

Maybe next year.

b.

[S&S]

Originally Posted by GordMay

Turnbuckle bodies in forged bronze alloy (finished in polished chromium), with stainless steel ends aren’t uncommon.

Sta-Lok
➥ STA-LOK Terminals Ltd - Marine - Turnbuckles - Turnbuckles & Rigging Screws

Hayn Marine
➥ Forged Bronze Turnbuckles by Hayn Marine

Best to avoid the chrome (it galls and the turnbuckles tend to stick).
I had a source for bronze turnbuckles, I just have to find it- but they're out there.

[Alton]

Originally Posted by barnakiel

I don't buy it:

- how has chafe from other elements of rigging been addressed?
- how has UV damage issues been addressed?
- why should I use a wire twice the dia of the 1x19?
- are the terminal eyes designed to be tensioned with turnbuckles ...
- what is the price difference (I mean - inclusive of relevant depreciation).
(...)

Maybe next year.

b.

I dont know about most of it but its more expensive. and most likely harder to come by in remote locations.

[Jmolan]

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...tml#post332079

Like I said, I do not want to hijack a thread, I am sorry in advance if this has happened.

I addressed some questions at the link above.