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09-01-2016, 13:09
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Panel Fasteners?
My boat has five powder-coated alu panels at the nav table, in which my radios and switchgear and instruments are mounted. Behind them is a lot of electronic equipment, droppers, buses, circuit breakers, and other things which need access not all that rarely.
Unfortunately, these panels are attached with simple screws into the wooden frames. This is first of all a PITA to get a screwdriver and unscrew them every time, and second, after opening and closing these panels a few hundred times of course the threads in the wood get worn. In general this just seems like a really poor way to attach these panels.
So I have a dream of replacing these screws with some kind of aerospace panel fasteners, or some kind of quarter turn fasteners, where I could set one part of the fastener permanently in the wood.
But I just can't seem to find the suitable bits. Anyone have any tips or advice?
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09-01-2016, 13:18
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Re: Panel Fasteners?
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09-01-2016, 13:18
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Re: Panel Fasteners?
ummm . . . . here is a UK company (very like the above post but UK) . . . . Quarter Turn Fasteners
I have never used these specific ones. They are just what came up first on google. I presume you have already looked at them - might help us if you say what you did not like about them?
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09-01-2016, 13:26
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Re: Panel Fasteners?
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Originally Posted by Zai
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Yep, that was my first thought too. The good old Dzus fasteners.
dzus fasteners | eBay
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09-01-2016, 13:27
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Re: Panel Fasteners?
Dockhead:
Have you considered a piano hinge at the bottom or side (if there's swinging room)and "rabbit hutch" fasteners [looks a bit like a finger screw with flange that swings to overlap the top of the panel] for the top?
Ann
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09-01-2016, 13:32
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Re: Panel Fasteners?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dockhead
My boat has five powder-coated alu panels at the nav table, in which my radios and switchgear and instruments are mounted. Behind them is a lot of electronic equipment, droppers, buses, circuit breakers, and other things which need access not all that rarely.
Unfortunately, these panels are attached with simple screws into the wooden frames. This is first of all a PITA to get a screwdriver and unscrew them every time, and second, after opening and closing these panels a few hundred times of course the threads in the wood get worn. In general this just seems like a really poor way to attach these panels.
So I have a dream of replacing these screws with some kind of aerospace panel fasteners, or some kind of quarter turn fasteners, where I could set one part of the fastener permanently in the wood.
But I just can't seem to find the suitable bits. Anyone have any tips or advice?
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You might also consider 3M Dual Lock. Totally unlike Velcro and designed for this sort of application. Perhaps not this particular application (no pics) but similar things. 1000 cycles and no residue when removed.
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09-01-2016, 14:20
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Re: Panel Fasteners?
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Originally Posted by estarzinger
ummm . . . . here is a UK company (very like the above post but UK) . . . . Quarter Turn Fasteners
I have never used these specific ones. They are just what came up first on google. I presume you have already looked at them - might help us if you say what you did not like about them?
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That's very much what I want, but the problem with these and all others I've found is that they are for sheet metal. I need something which has receptacles which can be set in wood.
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"You sea! I resign myself to you also . . . . I guess what you mean,
I behold from the beach your crooked inviting fingers,
I believe you refuse to go back without feeling of me;
We must have a turn together . . . . I undress . . . . hurry me out of sight of the land,
Cushion me soft . . . . rock me in billowy drowse,
Dash me with amorous wet . . . . I can repay you."
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09-01-2016, 14:24
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Re: Panel Fasteners?
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Originally Posted by 44'cruisingcat
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Thanks, hot tip! Looks like the receptacle part might be wide enough:
CRC Fairings | Dzus Fasteners (Pack of 20)
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"You sea! I resign myself to you also . . . . I guess what you mean,
I behold from the beach your crooked inviting fingers,
I believe you refuse to go back without feeling of me;
We must have a turn together . . . . I undress . . . . hurry me out of sight of the land,
Cushion me soft . . . . rock me in billowy drowse,
Dash me with amorous wet . . . . I can repay you."
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09-01-2016, 15:36
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Re: Panel Fasteners?
If you have the clearance in the backer plates, I have found thread inserts to be a great solution to striped out wood.
You still have to used machine screws to secure the front panel, so not as fast as Zues fastners. But a lot less work getting them installed.
Just enlarge the existing hole. Screw the insert in. Then replace the wood screws with machine screws.
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09-01-2016, 15:49
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Re: Panel Fasteners?
I had the same problem with my electrical panel. I used barrel bolts to replace the wood screws. The panel swings on a piano hinge.
John
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09-01-2016, 16:06
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Re: Panel Fasteners?
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Originally Posted by estarzinger
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That's the ticket!! Thanks!!!!
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"You sea! I resign myself to you also . . . . I guess what you mean,
I behold from the beach your crooked inviting fingers,
I believe you refuse to go back without feeling of me;
We must have a turn together . . . . I undress . . . . hurry me out of sight of the land,
Cushion me soft . . . . rock me in billowy drowse,
Dash me with amorous wet . . . . I can repay you."
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