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Old 22-02-2021, 21:27   #1
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Need advice: Teak Deck removal and what to do about the toe rail

I have a 33 year old Cardinal 46. the teak deck is at the end of its life. i am going to remove the teak deck and most likely repair the glass, top coat and non-skid.

this particular build was done with the teak decking sandwiched between the aluminum toe rail and fiberglass deck. I reallllly do not want to have to remove the toe rail to remove all of the teak. that is more problems than i want to deal with... unless someone has some helpful insight.

has anyone experience this kind of construction before? i am thinking of leaving the teak between the toe rail then fairing it into the glass deck with micro balloons and putting glass over that. anyone see any issues with this? any other ideas?

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Old 22-02-2021, 21:33   #2
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Re: Need advice: Teak Deck removal and what to do about the toe rail

If you're not having any issues with leaking at the toe rail, then I think your idea seems fine. Just do a really really good job with the glassing over, you don't want to create a situation where water gets into where the wood is and is trapped. Honestly, if you can trim the teak nicely, I'd just leave it exposed.
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Old 22-02-2021, 22:58   #3
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I might consider doing that. unfortunately the teak under the toe rail is not a continuous strip and enters the toe rail as multiple planks at an angle. there will be some separations along the way but I might be able to fill those with teak caulking or turn them into drainage points.
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Old 23-02-2021, 00:39   #4
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Re: Need advice: Teak Deck removal and what to do about the toe rail

If you are going to epoxy seal the inside, you may want to also seal the outside of the teak - or reseal. Maybe a router and then epoxy and filler.
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Old 23-02-2021, 01:07   #5
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Don’t do it,leaving the teak pieces under the alu toe rail will cause grief down the track, do it properly do it once ,sleep better, ‘this is probably also the hull deck joint ⛵️⚓️
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Old 23-02-2021, 01:20   #6
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My main concern for removing the toe rail is that it is likely the hull deck joint and I do not want to disturb it. it is currently sealed and not leaking. most of the teak decking not under the toe rail is thin starting to peal away. if I wanted to remove the toe rail I'm not sure how I would access all of the fasteners since they are buried all along the hull to deck joint. anyone have experience removing the toe rail? would I have to remove the mast and standing rigging to relieve the load on the hull?
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The toe rail fastenings may well be part of the fastenings used in the hull deck joint ,should have fastenings under the teak decking And the joint should be glassed inside and out ,removing the toe rail should have no affect on the rig ,but I don’t know the boat ,would suggest more investigation before diving into the job .⛵️⚓️
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The toe rail fastenings may well be part of the fastenings used in the hull deck joint ,should have fastenings under the teak decking And the joint should be glassed inside and out ,removing the toe rail should have no affect on the rig ,but I donít know the boat ,would suggest more investigation before diving into the job .⛵️⚓️
This same thing was done on 37ft boat that I was interested in. That was a deal breaker for me. Getting too old I guess.
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Re: Need advice: Teak Deck removal and what to do about the toe rail

I'm doing a similar job right now except I have plywood under the teak. I have had to remove the toe rail. My toe rail was held down with large self tapping screws down through the the teak and ply and the fibreglass shelf underneath. There was no sealant used under the toerail and in the holes through the teak and even though the teak looked good water still caused damage in the immediate area. In your case if you could arrange it so water runs away from the toe rail you may get away with it. Chiselling out or use a router to remove the teak so you get a fillet to fill the area so that the epoxy fillet is filling the area directly between the alloy and the fibreglass. Epoxy sticks well to teak after it's cleaned up. The alloy will need to be clean too just before you apply the fillet. Any damage down the track will be localized and will just need some creative stuff.
In my case I'm just laying fibreglass cloth with epoxy over the ply.
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