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21-09-2011, 11:39
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So good to see someone else Hates epoxy and fiber glass as much as us . We will say replacing the deck and cabin was the best idea and now the paint is done we are glad , but the process was long and painful. But on another note ; we have removed everything on the inside and would like to know more about insulating, spray foam ? poly board ? just not sure . we only want to insulate the living section not the v-berth or aft sections and we seem to think spray foam 1" thick would fill in the best . Any thoughts on this ?
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22-09-2011, 07:58
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Location: NY
Boat: Panda/Baba 40
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Re: Leaky Teaky
What's the general feeling towards gluing down a teak deck vs using fasteners?
Teak decks are simply non-negotiable for me at this point. I'd rather sleep in a puddle than not have them.
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22-09-2011, 08:23
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
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Re: Leaky Teaky
i have seen tongue and groove repairs and i have seen epoxied and repaired decks-- both options are good--i wish mine were still teak!!!! been researching this long time....seems both are attractive and functional--is just a matter of durability and longevity--havent seen the 20 yr results as yet.....
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22-09-2011, 09:33
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Re: Leaky Teaky
Boats do flex... quite a bit! I would be a little concerned with epoxying down a rigid teak deck. Something flexible might be better. Also, be aware, the teak sold today is not like what was used in the 80's etc. I'm no expert, but my understanding is it's not the same species.... and not as weather resistant.
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22-09-2011, 09:36
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Re: Leaky Teaky
But on another note ; we have removed everything on the inside and would like to know more about insulating, spray foam ? poly board ? just not sure . we only want to insulate the living section not the v-berth or aft sections and we seem to think spray foam 1" thick would fill in the best . Any thoughts on this ?
Hmm, it sounds messy and tough to remove if you ever needed to. I would think cutting poly or something else would work pretty well. There is a paint on product mentioned in another thread recently that's not too expensive either.
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22-09-2011, 09:38
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Re: Leaky Teaky
I understand that most manufactures do glue teak if they are putting it down at all anymore. I'm sure they use a flexible glue of some sort. Putting a thousand holes in the deck stopped seeming like such a great idea. I like my teak deck too but someone sanded it at some point so the fasteners are now a liability if I wish to do anything to it.
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22-09-2011, 14:08
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Re: Leaky Teaky
Naive question, but wouldn't the fact that the teak strips are each separated by a margin of caulk mean that the deck wouldn't really be a rigid "monocoque" like structure?
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22-09-2011, 14:13
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Re: Leaky Teaky
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22-09-2011, 14:14
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Re: Leaky Teaky
On all of the teak over plastic decks I've seen the caulk is fake and the strips are actually laid tight.
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23-09-2011, 10:05
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Re: Leaky Teaky
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Originally Posted by hummingway
On all of the teak over plastic decks I've seen the caulk is fake and the strips are actually laid tight.
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Do you mean plastic teak look alike products? The teak decks I've seen are butted teak stips with a rabbet for real caulk. Usually a 2 part product...?
I think the newer boats with non screwed decks are likely a great thing.... time will tell if their "adhesive of choice" works out I guess....
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23-09-2011, 10:10
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Re: Leaky Teaky
Quote:
Originally Posted by hummingway
I understand that most manufactures do glue teak if they are putting it down at all anymore. I'm sure they use a flexible glue of some sort. Putting a thousand holes in the deck stopped seeming like such a great idea. I like my teak deck too but someone sanded it at some point so the fasteners are now a liability if I wish to do anything to it.
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Yeah, My Passport 47 had screw heads showing and teak plugs paper thin in some spots. (interesting, no mention of it on the survey! NEVER USE A SURVEYOR FROM THE BROKER'S LIST!) But I should have looked closer myself (Duh!) I had them all removed and rescrewed in Annapolis. HUGE job. There must have been six hundred screws and plugs. Then had the same guy recaulk the whole deck in Ft Lauderdale. It was beautiful when done. Glad it wasn't my knees though!
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23-09-2011, 10:31
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Re: Leaky Teaky
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheechako
Do you mean plastic teak look alike products? The teak decks I've seen are butted teak stips with a rabbet for real caulk. Usually a 2 part product...?
I think the newer boats with non screwed decks are likely a great thing.... time will tell if their "adhesive of choice" works out I guess....
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AnotherT34C had asked if the strips were seperate, the faux caulking doesn't separate the strips. Personally, I don't call it real caulking since its only purpose is to look like the caulking of a "real" teak deck.
The good thing is that if the adhesives do fail at least you don't have a deck full of holes though I suppose you will have a deck covered with old glue to contend with.
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23-09-2011, 10:33
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Re: Leaky Teaky
Mine has over 3000 screws , I reset every one when I did the "deck work"....that was a big job, but IMO well worth the effort.
Like so many others...I really love my teak decks.
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23-09-2011, 11:58
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
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Re: Leaky Teaky
i wish i still had mine--didnt when i got boat...the good replacements i have seen that were tongue and groove had the rabbits for real caulk and were real teak.
james--you have patience of a saint and LOVE your boat------ awesome work...
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23-09-2011, 12:55
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Re: Leaky Teaky
Quote:
Originally Posted by James S
Mine has over 3000 screws , I reset every one when I did the "deck work"....that was a big job, but IMO well worth the effort.
Like so many others...I really love my teak decks.
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That's just plain beautiful James.
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