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10-12-2012, 07:41
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Salem, MA
Boat: Pearson 31
Posts: 535
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Keel Gash
Is it possible to be at the helm, awake and not under the influence of spirits or spirits, and suffer this sort of keel damage without feeling it? The keel is encapsulated lead.
Also, how to fix?
She's a Pearson 31 at 10,000 lbs.
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...cture14949.jpg
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10-12-2012, 07:48
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Moderator and Certifiable Refitter
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Re: Keel Gash
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo
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Ouch!
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10-12-2012, 07:50
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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Re: Keel Gash
Yes. Was there a previous owner of this vessel? If he had a mishap, it may have been a keel fairing repair which has failed. Barring that explanation, no.
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10-12-2012, 07:53
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Re: Keel Gash
with all the rocks etc in Salem I can see you glancing off one when sailing hard in choppy seas and not notice a side hit on the keel
clean it up and fair it out with some expoy repaint and go looking for that rock next year (there's one over by George's Island we call Dana's Rock beause my wife bounced off it one day)
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10-12-2012, 08:09
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Massachusetts
Boat: 40' Silverton Aftcabin with twin Crusaders
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Re: Keel Gash
I HAVE SEEN THAT TYPE OF GASH BEFORE! It came not from hitting a rock but from my old 30' Hunter sailboat getting hung up on the launching/hauling trailor where I had left it for hauling. Mine was not quite as severe but in general, it did resemble your picture.
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10-12-2012, 08:55
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Salem, MA
Boat: Pearson 31
Posts: 535
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Re: Keel Gash
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tar34
Yes. Was there a previous owner of this vessel? If he had a mishap, it may have been a keel fairing repair which has failed. Barring that explanation, no.
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Yes, that is my suspicion.
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10-12-2012, 09:15
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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Re: Keel Gash
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Originally Posted by Neo
Yes, that is my suspicion.
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No Worries, just a very common repair.
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10-12-2012, 09:21
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Salem, MA
Boat: Pearson 31
Posts: 535
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Re: Keel Gash
Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Lucas
with all the rocks etc in Salem I can see you glancing off one when sailing hard in choppy seas and not notice a side hit on the keel
clean it up and fair it out with some expoy repaint and go looking for that rock next year (there's one over by George's Island we call Dana's Rock beause my wife bounced off it one day)
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Ha! I named a rock for similar reasons in lower middle in Boston Harbor. So, I know what it feels like to bounce off a rock in a Ranger 23 at speed. Knocked me over and resulted in a 1" divot in the keel. I also learned that humble pie is an acquired tasted.
But the Pearson is 3 times the displacement of the Ranger, so I'm not sure what it would feel like, and don't want to find out anytime soon.
I did have a soft grounding in the mud a few feet from the dock at Hawthorne Cove earlier in the year. it could have been enough to uncover evidence of a previous crime.
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10-12-2012, 10:49
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Now based on Florida's West coast
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Re: Keel Gash
Neo, I would defintely check my keel bolts and check the juncture between the keel and the hull for any stress cracks. If all is fine, it is a simple repair with thickened epoxy followed by a couple barrier coats and bottom paint. Good luck and good sailing.
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10-12-2012, 11:10
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
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Re: Keel Gash
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo
Is it possible to be at the helm, awake and not under the influence of spirits or spirits, and suffer this sort of keel damage without feeling it? The keel is encapsulated lead.
Also, how to fix?
She's a Pearson 31 at 10,000 lbs.
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...cture14949.jpg
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Nope!
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10-12-2012, 12:39
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Re: Keel Gash
I've hit stuff that didn't leave a mark that damn near knocked me down.
So....NO!
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10-12-2012, 12:55
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
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Re: Keel Gash
Provided the rock was under water. Fixable. Wash, dry out well and laminate over. b.
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10-12-2012, 13:25
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pangaea
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Re: Keel Gash
Looks like it could have been launch or haul out mishap, were you present to watch? Just a hunch, if you're sure you didn't hit anything.
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10-12-2012, 15:48
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Madison, WI
Boat: Bristol 27
Posts: 7
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Re: Keel Gash
Is that an encapsulated keel? It looks like the lead is the last thing on the bottom.
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10-12-2012, 16:26
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Salem, MA
Boat: Pearson 31
Posts: 535
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Re: Keel Gash
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenomac
Looks like it could have been launch or haul out mishap, were you present to watch? Just a hunch, if you're sure you didn't hit anything.
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Good point! I wasn't there this time, but will be next. Maybe that is why I haven't received the haul/storage bill yet. It's been 6 weeks.
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