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13-04-2015, 05:36
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Denmark
Boat: Albin Vega 27
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Do you see a problem here?
Does anyone see a problem with this hull solely based on the attached photo?
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13-04-2015, 05:42
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Boat: Sweden Yacht 36
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Re: Do you see a problem here?
The problem is that it is new painted. Difficult the say what is beneath the paint, even more so from the picture only.
The gap between the rudder and the hull looks a bit funny, but if rudder bearings feel good and there is no extra play I wouldn't worry about that...
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13-04-2015, 05:44
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#3
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Re: Do you see a problem here?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaptah
The problem is that it is new painted. Difficult the say what is beneath the paint, even more so from the picture only.
The gap between the rudder and the hull looks a bit funny, but if rudder bearings feel good and there is no extra play I wouldn't worry about that...
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How about the uneven flakes below the paint, is that just a poor paintjob?
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13-04-2015, 05:56
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Re: Do you see a problem here?
For me it would be the fact the propeller is aft of the rudder.. but thats just me..
As for the flakes.. just means there's old antifoul beneath that was not scraped of properly before the re-coat..
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13-04-2015, 05:57
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2015
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Re: Do you see a problem here?
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Originally Posted by boatman61
For me it would be the fact the propeller is aft of the rudder.. but thats just me..
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Yes it's an Albin Vega. A known problem for reversing, but what's the fun if there's no challenge right
No I was really looking to see if someone could spot out "oh there's a major fault there!".
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13-04-2015, 05:59
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Registered User
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Re: Do you see a problem here?
Vega with a home made rudder?
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13-04-2015, 06:02
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Re: Do you see a problem here?
Hogged?
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13-04-2015, 06:02
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Denmark
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Re: Do you see a problem here?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reefmagnet
Vega with a home made rudder?
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No, it's original.
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13-04-2015, 06:07
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Re: Do you see a problem here?
Quote:
Originally Posted by boatman61
For me it would be the fact the propeller is aft of (and above) the rudder.. but thats just me...
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Not just you.
Steering is only effective when there is water flowing over the rudder. Water flow over the rudder is gained in three ways;
1) The boat moving through the water
2) From the propeller (propwash)
3) When a stream of water is running over the rudder such as tide
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13-04-2015, 06:19
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Re: Do you see a problem here?
I wouldn't worry about the paint, I'd be more concerned about the fundamental design flaw.
The inability to vector thrust means you have to have way on to get any meaningful effect from the rudder. I drove a large Ice Breaker for years with this same flaw, 2 screws with one rudder hung in between them, the ship was the biggest pig I've ever wheeled- this one looks even worse.
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13-04-2015, 06:21
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Re: Do you see a problem here?
They don't reverse worth a damn. Always weathercock no matter what.
The gap at the top between rudder and hull doesn't look quite right, but it could be the rudder angle.
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13-04-2015, 06:34
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
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Re: Do you see a problem here?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicks
How about the uneven flakes below the paint, is that just a poor paintjob?
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That's a normal paint job if the bottom already had paint that wasn't stripped off. There is always a section on my boat when painting that the old paint peels up.
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13-04-2015, 06:44
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Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Denmark
Boat: Albin Vega 27
Posts: 75
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Re: Do you see a problem here?
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailorboy1
That's a normal paint job if the bottom already had paint that wasn't stripped off. There is always a section on my boat when painting that the old paint peels up.
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Ah I see.
So ideally, next time when I bottom paint it myself, I should just strip off the old paint before painting it again. I'm guessing just adding layer after layer isn't the best way to do it?
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13-04-2015, 06:49
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
Boat: none
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Re: Do you see a problem here?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicks
Ah I see.
So ideally, next time when I bottom paint it myself, I should just strip off the old paint before painting it again. I'm guessing just adding layer after layer isn't the best way to do it?
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When you go to paint it next time the whole issue will become very clear to you when you find out how easy it was to say that compared to doing it
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13-04-2015, 06:52
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Somewhere, Caribbean
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Re: Do you see a problem here?
With that prop it's going to be pretty hard to get enough airspeed to take off with such a short runway.
Or...
It's not in the water where it would be happier.
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