Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 10-02-2020, 15:41   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 2
Challenger 35’ Ketch helm linkage broken

Hi all,
My sister-in-law just bough to fixer-upper. We were taking it to the pump out station in the harbor and suddenly there was a clank sound in the helm pedestal and the new no response to turning the helm. We managed to get safely to the dock without some assist from a light breeze and got pumped out.
We also managed to get back to her slip with the aid of a very helpful fellow boater. Shout out to Brian in Oxnard. THANKS BROTHER!!!
Anyway I found a broken chain down below but don’t know Howe it routes back to the helm.
I did appreciate any in sight into how this system works. Her boat is a 1975 Challenger 35’ Ketch.
Thanks to all
Al Hodges is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2020, 15:50   #2
Registered User
 
Dsanduril's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Petersburg, AK
Boat: Outremer 50S
Posts: 4,227
Re: Challenger 35’ Ketch helm linkage broken

Looks like the Challenger 35 has a steering pedestal in the cockpit? In that case, was the broken chain attached to a couple of cables? That went through some turning blocks?

If that's the case then the chain (should look like a motorcycle/bicycle chain) should go up through the pedestal, over a sprocket, and back down. Cables get attached to each end, and then go to the rudder. Here's a picture of a pedestal from the top to give you an idea:


and a diagram of how many of them work (there are so many variations that you may have to take a few pictures and post them if things look a lot different):


PS - Welcome to CF
Dsanduril is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2020, 16:16   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 3
Re: Challenger 35’ Ketch helm linkage broken

Thanks for the pictures, @Dsanduril!
Haley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2020, 16:43   #4
Senior Cruiser
 
tkeithlu's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Carrabelle, Florida
Boat: Fiberglas shattering 44' steel trawler
Posts: 3,765
Re: Challenger 35’ Ketch helm linkage broken

Welcome to the forum, Al, and I'm sorry that you've had a bad day.

Most likely the connection between the chain and the cables broke, but it could also be cable skipping off the rudder quadrant or some other pretty simple failure.

In any case, you can repair it. It's simple. Dig in and find the problem. If you need new chain or chain fittings, go here:

https://www.mcmaster.com/chain-and-rope-fittings

or here:

mcmaster.com/drive-chain

Get to know the McMaster-Carr catalog; it's very easy to use because it's a branching system that leads you through narrowing down to what you need. Measure the chain and look on the sides of the links; "45" means it's a group 45 chain in the catalog. You can do the same for cable fittings.

It only gets rough if you (very unlikely) have a damaged rudder quadrant. You might have to go to Hamilton Marine (they support commercial fishing boats) for a new one.

Hang i there, and let us know how you did with your first repair project.
__________________
Never let anything mechanical know that you are in a hurry.
tkeithlu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2020, 17:14   #5
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Australia
Boat: building Roberts Mauritius 43ft
Posts: 2,816
Re: Challenger 35’ Ketch helm linkage broken

As other have pointed out it could be a cable/chain link broken.


Maybe your steering is an Edson set-up?

https://edsonmarine.com/products/sailboat-steering-wheels/steering-hardware/chain-wire-rope
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Chain Cable link.png
Views:	18
Size:	315.1 KB
ID:	211948   Click image for larger version

Name:	Cable Chain link.jpg
Views:	18
Size:	422.7 KB
ID:	211949  

coopec43 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
helm, ketch

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Throttle Linkage Broken stevo_002 Engines and Propulsion Systems 15 15-12-2017 04:49
Through Hull-Valve Broken or Not-Broken? Jado27 Monohull Sailboats 15 16-03-2016 06:14
Opinions on a 35' Challenger Ketch 1970s vintage harley.vrod Monohull Sailboats 1 25-01-2012 18:57
For Sale: 40' Challenger Ketch greebob Classifieds Archive 2 19-10-2009 11:33

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:48.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.