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12-06-2019, 12:50
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Location: Slidell, La.
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Re: add hooks to sail locker for hanging things
Plexus (methyl methyl acrylate), 5200 (polyurethane), epoxy are all good adhesives for this application.
A good clean bonding surface is important, so sanding with 100 grit paper followed by a wipe with a non-residue leaving (not paint thinner/mineral spirits) solvent/cleaner such as acetone, lacquer thinner or denatured alcohol is best practice.
The wood chosen for blocks is important, non-oily domestic hardwoods such as birch, maple, locust, hickory. etc. would be first choice. Blocks of non-oily tropical hardwoods are even better, but somewhat dearer and hard to find, though the prevalence of their use in flooring has made them easier for an effective scrounger to find... careful though, because some of them are so hard that they almost have to be tapped to get screws into them.
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12-06-2019, 13:12
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Winston-Salem NC
Boat: Tartan30
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Re: add hooks to sail locker for hanging things
I am not a big fan of HOOKS. It concentrates all the friction area in a very small spot, and can create chafe just from swinging endlessly for who knows how long. Nothing like going for a line or piece of gear and finding it has a chafe spot right in the middle of it.
I prefer to use Wooden or PVC PEGS, which are sunk at an angle into another piece of wood. It increases the surface area where the contact is, and can prevent or lessen chafe. I also have some small velcro straps that prevent many of the items from swinging to begin with.
Had some PFD's that were on hooks and they would swing a little against the inside of the hull, which on my boat is a little rough. Went to show them for a USCG Inspection, and the back sides at the corners were all worn thru the orange fabric. Boarding Officer gave me a break but I had to replace them. Also have lost some lines to the same sort of motion. Or.....you can just use hooks....lol
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12-06-2019, 13:25
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Re: add hooks to sail locker for hanging things
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Originally Posted by FabioC
I solved this problem by epoxying the blocks to the hull using West System and then using small nylon horn cleats (instead of hooks) that you can get from Amazon screwed into the blocks. The cleats are more versatile than hooks and you can develop an entire "storage" system for all sort of things. The whole thing is very solid, light, and marine looking.
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Sounds really slick. Photos?
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12-06-2019, 20:54
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Miami
Boat: 2012 Tartan 47
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Re: add hooks to sail locker for hanging things
See,the latest edition of Practical Sailor. They went through how to fabricate and install a setup exactly for the purpose you describe out of aluminum.
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13-06-2019, 02:02
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: UK
Boat: Woods Flica catamaran
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Re: add hooks to sail locker for hanging things
Maybe look at these Hatch Hook
Haven't tried them myself but they look useful.
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13-06-2019, 05:14
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Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Rhode Island
Boat: Pearson 303
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Re: add hooks to sail locker for hanging things
I used some aluminum 1/8 " strapping 3/4 inch wide by 3' at Lowes. Set up and vise with two rods so you can bend to shape a hook. Cut off your new hook with a hack saw.
Use G 10 fiberglass board as a backer, cut to the size you want.
Attach your new hook to the G 10 fiberglass board. I used 3M 4200, clamp.
Clean boat attachment area with acetone. Apply 4200 to back side of the G 10 and tape in place with Gorilla tape. Allow to cure.
All my lines are organized and dry.
Credit to Good Old Boat
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13-06-2019, 06:33
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Join Date: Oct 2014
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Re: add hooks to sail locker for hanging things
I just did this project for mounting my manual bilge pump handle and a spare fire extinguisher in cockpit lockers. Nothing was going to show, so it didn't have to be real pretty. I used West Systems epoxy, cause I had it, and double coated some 1 x 4 blocks about a foot long. Pre-drilled holes and put the mounts in place before adhering to hull. I roughed the area on the inside of the locker up with some 80-grit, and cleaned with acetone. Used West Six-10 from a caulking gun, which produces pre-mixed filled epoxy and put a strip on the back of each block. Duct taped into position for a half-day until it setup. You could hang from these blocks - they ain't going anywhere.
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13-06-2019, 07:11
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Deale, MD
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Re: add hooks to sail locker for hanging things
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Originally Posted by Capt Y Knot
I used some aluminum 1/8 " strapping 3/4 inch wide by 3' at Lowes. Set up and vise with two rods so you can bend to shape a hook. Cut off your new hook with a hack saw.
Use G 10 fiberglass board as a backer, cut to the size you want.
Attach your new hook to the G 10 fiberglass board. I used 3M 4200, clamp.
Clean boat attachment area with acetone. Apply 4200 to back side of the G 10 and tape in place with Gorilla tape. Allow to cure.
All my lines are organized and dry.
Credit to Good Old Boat
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That's me, both the GOB and PS articles, on different boats.
Every boat I've bought had broken-off plastic hooks in it. They were generally too small, and were shaped to grab or tear stuff. So I designed my own circle hook style, which is unbreakable, secure, and does not snag. Then you create a strong base either by gluing on wood or (better) fiberglass or mounting them with glue-on studs (Duckworks is a good source).
The reason I made the removable hooks for my most recent boat is that I sometimes have to crawl through the locker to access things under the cockpit. Fixed hooks were back-stabbers. So the hooks mount on a removable aluminum bar.
I like thickened epoxy for this. Permanent, and you can use the epoxy for many things.
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