Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 24-12-2013, 14:32   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Manly Qld
Boat: Pearson 424
Posts: 6
Westerbeake 71C overheating

Wonder if anybody can assist? Our Westerbeake has had overheating issues for a little while now and wishing to go out for a couple of weeks needs to know if any damage will occur if we run the engine for lengthy periods without the thermostat in? For background info, there is plenty of raw water, the heat exchanger is clean as are all the hoses. Oil is fresh and at the correct level with normal pressure, no obstructions to the prop. No oil in the water and no water in the oil, exhaust appears OK. Engine hours 2626. Air intake clear. Tried three new thermostats but each one seems to be restricting water flow so she overheats within a few minutes of load. Take thermostat out runs fine but obviously cool.
Lyn Hancox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-12-2013, 15:16   #2
Moderator Emeritus
 
a64pilot's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
Boat: Island Packet 38
Posts: 31,351
Re: Westerbeake 71C overheating

It won't kill it, but you need to find out what s wrong, From your description it sounds as if your fresh water pump's impeller is worn somehow or something similar to decrease water flow to below what is required. IF that's the case, then it may let you down at the worst possible moment.
First I would absolutely verify the your thermostats are the correct temp, then verify your temp gauge. Is it possible your engines fine, but the temp gauge isn't?
a64pilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-12-2013, 15:34   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Manly Qld
Boat: Pearson 424
Posts: 6
Thanks for the advice A64pilot

Don't need to check the instruments as the engine rapidly boils pushing coolant out through the header tank! Seems to be air locking all the time when the thermostat is in place but does not when I remove the thermostat without the thermostat fitted engine will hardly warm up at all.
Lyn Hancox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-12-2013, 15:45   #4
Moderator Emeritus
 
a64pilot's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
Boat: Island Packet 38
Posts: 31,351
Re: Westerbeake 71C overheating

Is it possible that your original thermostat had a small hole in the flange, but the replacement one doesn't?
a64pilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-12-2013, 16:29   #5
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 203
T stat upside down??
twinboat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-12-2013, 19:42   #6
Registered User
 
Dulcesuenos's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Western Caribbean
Boat: 38/41 Fountains pajot
Posts: 3,060
Images: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by a64pilot View Post
Is it possible that your original thermostat had a small hole in the flange, but the replacement one doesn't?
This made all the difference in our last mono's westerbeke. Oe had hole aftr mkt did not, we drilled a small 1/16"? Or so hole in it and no more getting warm under power up. Have you checled the impeller on the raw water pump? One can look good but still underperform just enough.

If your in warm waters I dont think the tstat will be a big deal.
Dulcesuenos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-12-2013, 19:48   #7
Registered User
 
DeepFrz's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Winnipeg
Boat: None at this time
Posts: 8,462
Re: Westerbeake 71C overheating

You mentioned the heat exchanger but not the water injection exhaust elbow. Have you checked it to make sure the holes aren't plugged up?
DeepFrz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-12-2013, 15:22   #8
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Manly Qld
Boat: Pearson 424
Posts: 6
Hi all


Thanks got the responses, raw water side is good, plenty coming through, new impeller installed a couple of months ago. Have not checked the exhaust injection elbow though. Will have a look at that today, is it difficult to remove or replace? Presumably I will need new gaskets?
Lyn Hancox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-12-2013, 15:26   #9
Moderator Emeritus
 
a64pilot's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
Boat: Island Packet 38
Posts: 31,351
Re: Westerbeake 71C overheating

Take one of those three thermostats and drill a 1/8" hole in the flange and see if your problem goes away. It has to do with being able to bleed all air out of the system more than anything.
a64pilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-12-2013, 15:48   #10
Registered User
 
jstevens's Avatar

Join Date: May 2006
Location: On board Sarah, currently lying in Jacksonville, FL
Boat: Pearson, 424, 42', Sarah
Posts: 674
Images: 4
Re: Westerbeake 71C overheating

Lyn,
My guess is you have the former Whoosh (Whoosh). Have you contacted Jack about this problem?

A common source of overheating when the raw water flow is good and the thermostat has been eliminated is the heat exchanger. I had that problem with the original W60 on my P424. It required a thorough cleaning.

Another possibility is an air lock in the coolant hoses going to the hot water tank. That will normally result in an over temp alarm condition. Eliminating the thermostat might cover up the problem, but not fix anything.
My solution to the airlock problem was to disconnect the water heater hoses from the engine and pour coolant into one hose until it flowed out of the other end and then reconnect the hoses to the engine.

John
jstevens is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:10.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.