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02-03-2013, 10:55
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Satellite Beach Florida
Boat: Bruce Roberts 434
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If you are coastal cruising years of towing insurance can be bought for cost of replacing the engine. Have the mechanic write down what he said and try to knock off 25k on the boat!! Haha
And see how that goes
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26-11-2013, 07:14
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#47
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Holland
Boat: 9mtr motorboat
Posts: 33
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Re: Perkins 4-108 diesel
I would love to know how it went, I bought a 4108 that was 36years old and only had 835 hrs on it, now at 1100 hrs I have had to replace the the valve stem seals and the throttle shaft Orings, my Mechanic couldnt believe his eyes when he came to do the tappets. Never seen a 36year old 4108 lowline that ran like a new motor, which really it is, except all the rubbers will have gone hard and will be replaced bit by bit, expecting the back crankcase seal next, already have the replacement ready to go.
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12-12-2013, 14:14
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#48
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Bayou Chico, FL 32507
Boat: Cal Cruising 46 - SATORI
Posts: 402
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Re: Perkins 4-108 diesel
We have re-manufactured 11 Perkins 4.108 long blocks this year. In all cases they had few hours and had failed due to owner neglect, improper maintenance, boat sunk, etc. None of these 11 failed due to excessive wear. I believe the Perkins 4.108 is one of the best mid size marine engines ever built.
Tom
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10-08-2018, 22:15
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Boat: Peterson 42 syle 42' ferro hull, cutter rig.
Posts: 5
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Re: Perkins 4-108 diesel
I know this is an old thread, and I'm considering a 4.108 for my yacht. The one I've found has no gearbox. Does the Perkins require a specific gearbox or is there a good choice of adapters, bell housing, etc.
I have a 40' 15 ton, yacht. The old motor is an 75HP Nissan SD25. Will the Perkins be okay with this size boat?
Thanks,
Stephen
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11-08-2018, 00:01
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#50
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Oregon to Alaska
Boat: Wheeler Shipyard 83' ex USCG
Posts: 3,509
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Re: Perkins 4-108 diesel
The 4108 will work, but short on hp. The Perkins pleasure rating is 48hp and continuous rating is 36hp. If you're mostly motoring to and from the dock, ok. But you'll probably loose a couple knots compared to the Nissan. There are usually Perkins engines and gear boxes on ebay.
It would probably be cheaper to rebuild the Nissan.
A different engine means modifying engine beds, a new alignment, probably a different prop, adapting to existing exhaust, fuel lines, shift/throttle linkage, gauges/control panel, salt water cooling and so on.
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11-08-2018, 01:04
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#51
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Boat: Peterson 42 syle 42' ferro hull, cutter rig.
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Re: Perkins 4-108 diesel
Thanks Lekpe. Valid points.
I have quotes of AUD12,500 to rebuild the Nissan and so looking at alternatives. My boat is on the hard and a restoration project, running over 2 years so far. I can rework the engine bay to suit a different motor; it's fairly roomy.
Note taken of your HP comment.
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11-08-2018, 06:29
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#52
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Nyack, NY
Boat: Westsail 32
Posts: 1,694
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Re: Perkins 4-108 diesel
Look closely at the starboard side of motor, our 4108 has a manual oil extraction pump attached to motor that makes oil extraction a snap.
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11-08-2018, 07:58
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
Posts: 25,515
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Re: Perkins 4-108 diesel
Quote:
Originally Posted by stepheno
I know this is an old thread, and I'm considering a 4.108 for my yacht. The one I've found has no gearbox. Does the Perkins require a specific gearbox or is there a good choice of adapters, bell housing, etc.
I have a 40' 15 ton, yacht. The old motor is an 75HP Nissan SD25. Will the Perkins be okay with this size boat?
Thanks,
Stephen
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The 4-108 in my fairly heavy Tanton/CT44 was plenty of engine even up here in the PNW where 5 knots of current isn't unusual and up to 12 knots occur!. (My avatar) Very economical engine too, I kept track in a log the entire time I had the boat. The average over that time was .65 gallons an hour of fuel use. The boat would do nearly 8.5 knots in flat water as it had a long waterline. I had a 17" Max Prop.
We had the Hurth gearbox. They often came with Velvet Drives too... a much bigger transmission than the Hurth.
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11-08-2018, 08:10
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#54
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Good question
Boat: Rafiki 37
Posts: 14,206
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Re: Perkins 4-108 diesel
Quote:
Originally Posted by stepheno
I know this is an old thread, and I'm considering a 4.108 for my yacht. The one I've found has no gearbox. Does the Perkins require a specific gearbox or is there a good choice of adapters, bell housing, etc.
I have a 40' 15 ton, yacht. The old motor is an 75HP Nissan SD25. Will the Perkins be okay with this size boat?
Thanks,
Stephen
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My 4108 moves my 37’ 15-ton full keel sailboat quite well. Will hit hull speed (~7 knots) at around 2200 RPM. I usually cruise at around 1700 @ ~6 knots.
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11-08-2018, 08:17
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sacramento, CA
Boat: Bayliner Victoria 2750
Posts: 314
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Re: Perkins 4-108 diesel
Quote:
Originally Posted by stepheno
I know this is an old thread, and I'm considering a 4.108 for my yacht. The one I've found has no gearbox. Does the Perkins require a specific gearbox or is there a good choice of adapters, bell housing, etc.
I have a 40' 15 ton, yacht. The old motor is an 75HP Nissan SD25. Will the Perkins be okay with this size boat?
Thanks,
Stephen
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The 4.108 has a standard Borg Warner bolt pattern. This will mate to most marine transmissions with this pattern. One thing you need to check is your flywheel to ensure it will mate to the transmission you are considering. I repowered a powerboat with this engine and needed to make modifications to the flywheel to allow it to bolt to my drive.
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11-08-2018, 11:45
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#56
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Holland
Boat: 9mtr motorboat
Posts: 33
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Re: Perkins 4-108 diesel
Not a hope. Stick to another 70hp. Under powered boats are dangerous.
Quote:
Originally Posted by stepheno
I know this is an old thread, and I'm considering a 4.108 for my yacht. The one I've found has no gearbox. Does the Perkins require a specific gearbox or is there a good choice of adapters, bell housing, etc.
I have a 40' 15 ton, yacht. The old motor is an 75HP Nissan SD25. Will the Perkins be okay with this size boat?
Thanks,
Stephen
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28-06-2021, 13:00
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#57
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 5
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Re: Perkins 4-108 diesel
How much did you pay for the used 4-108?
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28-06-2021, 16:26
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#58
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Olympia, Washington
Boat: 1979 Mariner Ketch 32-Hull 202
Posts: 2,124
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Re: Perkins 4-108 diesel
Quote:
Originally Posted by bsankey448
Just talked to the mechanic who did a survey on the engine. He says that a Perkins with that many hours is just about at the end of it's life span and I will need to do a re power in the not to distant future.
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Maybe the engines he's built go 4000hrs.
Professional builders claim 10,000 to 12,000.
And, what's in your rebuild matters!
SV Cloud Duster
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