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Originally Posted by GoneDiving
I lived in Indonesia for 20 years. My impressions:
"In stock" means they will buy one from the cheapest, most remote source after you pay them 100%, plus shipping, plus taxes, plus duties.
Forget about any waranttee or dispute claims. Concrete guarantees only: once its left their concrete all promises are null and void.
Mislabeling, component swap outs are rife.
All units will have the absolute lowest cost options fitted. Global standard equipment specs do not apply
Indonesians repair everything (labour is far cheaper than new parts) and run machinery till its dust then another 10 years. NEVER buy used machinery there: it will be completely knackered.
Recommendations on international orders is easy: dont. Indonesia is generally a high import duty country. How are they going to buy a unit ex Japan, ship to Indo Delivered Duty Paid and then export it to you cheaper than you can buy locally?
The only circumstance where I would buy machinery in Indonesia would be to physically walk into the shop, check the new unit sitting on the floor in front of me and watch them load it onto my truck.
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I lived and sailed in Indonesia for about 10 years. I have been coming back here frequently for
work for another 20 and I am in fact in Jakarta as I write. Many of the above things could happen and might be true sometimes, based on my experience but not all of them at once. And the vast majority of Indonesians are honest and helpful. But in a country of 260 million people, there will be some not good ones just as there are everywhere else.
We had a
Yanmar 3 something in our Van de Stadt 34. We found, as noted by GoneDiving above, that if something could be repaired rather than replaced, it was cheaper. If a part had to be imported, it was usually if not always more expensive than
buying it new in
Canada (our home base). Fortunately for small
parts I knew enough people going back and forth that we could usually find someone willing to carry a part for us.
I would agree however that I would want to see what I was
buying and watch it being dispatched. However, I would want to do the same thing no matter which country I was buying it in. An
engine is not
cheap, configurations vary and specifications for a "base" model might provide something other than what is expected or needed.
The caveat emptor thing applies in this situation. If you were buying the
engine while your
boat was somewhere in Indonesia, you could be assured of buying the right thing and if it was being installed by someone other than you, the
work would be well done and inexpensive.
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