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Old 08-08-2019, 13:04   #1
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Facet Fuel Pump which one

During my last cruise, I had an issue with my fuel pump cutting out. Fortunately, I tracked it down to a loose wire to the Facet fuel pump. This got me thinking that it would be a good idea to carry a spare pump in the event that the current pump (which is about 10 years old) ever fails. I typically use my my engine about 60 hours per year, so my current pump probably has about 600 hours on it.
I have a Universal Model 25 (21 HP) diesel.
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* How long to fuel pumps last? Should I carry a spare since my current one is 10 years old?
* Current pump is a Facet, but there is no specific model number on it. Is there a particular model that I should be buying? In looking at the Facet web site, they show this pump which looks similar to what I have right now
https://www.facet-purolator.com/gold-flo/

Any suggestions on a diesel fuel pump replacement?
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Old 08-08-2019, 13:23   #2
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Re: Facet Fuel Pump which one

In looking at Amazon, there appears to be a few different models of the Facet Gold Flow electric pumps with different PSI and GPH capabilities - here is one that looks like my existing pump https://www.amazon.com/Facet-Purolat...385E2ZA7XGSHRH

Any guidance would be appreciated
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Re: Facet Fuel Pump which one

https://www.sailnet.com/forums/diese...fuel-pump.html

I tracked down the real Facet model on my Westerbeke 44B to a Facet 40176 but mine is a square Facet and is integrated to a bracket so I wanted to keep it the same. I don't think there is a real reason you need to use the exact cylinder version unless it's some how integrated.

I paid $30 for mine new on eBay and I keep it as a spare.
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Old 08-08-2019, 15:43   #4
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Re: Facet Fuel Pump which one

Many electric fuel pumps last decades. My advice is carry a spare then that will ensure yours never craps out.
Just get a 3-5 psi pump whose fittings match your fuel hose diameter. I bought one for $15 as we have a ,AFAIK ,39 year old mechanical pump.
Would have liked to have a mechanical spare but Yanmar wanted $360 NZ$ & no rebuild kits.
Uh.... no thanks.
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Re: Facet Fuel Pump which one

99% of all automobiles as they are almost all fuel injected now have electric fuel pumps, and they are very reliable. Iíve had one go out in my life.
Average auto in the US is 11.8 years old, and Iíd bet almost everyone of them is running on the original fuel pump.

However carry a spare, they are cheap. Small and lightweight, just too easy to have a spare, but I bet youíll likely never need it.
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[QUOTE=a64pilot;, but I bet youíll likely never need it.




I hope that is true. I ditched the diaphragm pump on our Perkins. It has way to many, cheesy moving parts. I did install 2 electric pumps in series just in case.

I had an electric fuel pump failure on an MGB once. Those fools used a set of contact points to run the motor.
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Re: Facet Fuel Pump which one

Many of us have M25 or M235XP engines.


Try this:


IIRC the Napa Replacement thread has a link to this helpful Facet pump discussion from Fleet 1 in San Francisco:

FLIX!!! of NAPA Fuel Pump #610-1051

See reply #11.
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[QUOTE=Ecos;2949727][QUOTE=a64pilot;, but I bet youíll likely never need it.




I hope that is true. I ditched the diaphragm pump on our Perkins. It has way to many, cheesy moving parts. I did install 2 electric pumps in series just in case.

I had an electric fuel pump failure on an MGB once. Those fools used a set of contact points to run the motor.[/QUOTE]
Was it by any chance a Lucas pump?
Lucas well known as the "Prince of Darkness"
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Thanks everyone for all the very helpful responses. Much appreciated
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Re: Facet Fuel Pump which one

Facet pumps have model # stamped into the mounting plate.
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I had an electric fuel pump failure on an MGB once.
Only once? A quick rap with a wrench quickly gets it going again.
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Only once? A quick rap with a wrench quickly gets it going again.

I wish! I had to rap it every few miles across the Mojive desert in a sand storm. I'm glad just about every auto parts store sells an electric pump.
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Thanks for the info on location of the Facet model number. For anyone else for future reference, here is a link https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/do...ocID=TECH00023
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Facet Fuel Pump which one

Only time our little MG Midget let us down was the fuel hose right at the tank rotted out and of course sucked air / leaked fuel.
That was a maintenance issue of course and not a poor parts or bad design. I just didnít catch the rotten hose in time.
Pretty decent little car actually, and the Armstrong shocks were a brilliant design, good way to reduce unsprung weight.
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