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08-11-2021, 14:18
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Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Port Charlotte Fl
Boat: 34ft Irwin Citation
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Belt squealing
Belt started squealing and top wheel not turning at all... But can manually move it a little back and forth.. I don't know what this belt wheel does? Please advise!
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08-11-2021, 14:19
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Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Nice, France
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Re: Belt squealing
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08-11-2021, 14:23
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Fiji Airways/ Lake Ontario
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Re: Belt squealing
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Originally Posted by sailormed
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Yep, 99.99% chance. Your water pump is frozen up and needs to be replaced.
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08-11-2021, 14:25
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Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Port Charlotte Fl
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Re: Belt squealing
I just replaced the sea water pump brand new... so the top wheel looking at the engine straight on is a fresh water pump?? Picture uploaded sideways
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08-11-2021, 14:40
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Re: Belt squealing
Picture uploaded sideways.
Yeah..we saw that, it looked like front of an engine sideways. Your water pump needs replacement/repair, depends.....take it out and investigate.
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08-11-2021, 14:53
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Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Port Charlotte Fl
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Re: Belt squealing
So is there a raw and a fresh water pump on this engine? Sorry to ask... No manual or anything.
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17-11-2021, 06:30
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Re: Belt squealing
Trace the routeof water from the seacock. Raw water will go to a pump, to a heat exchanger, and overboard. Coolant will not have a seacock, and will be routed all over the engine including through a water pump and the heat exchanger. It's what 90% of your short bits of hose do.
If when you do this you don't find a heat exchanger and only one pump, you are raw water cooled, but that is not likely.
In your picture there are two large diameter hoses coming from the pump. Does one of them go to a seacock and one to a heat exhanger? - raw water. Do they both enter the engine somewhere? - coolant.
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17-11-2021, 06:40
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Re: Belt squealing
Further figuring out your manual-less engine. The belt goes around tour crankshaft (bottom), water pump (top left) and alternator (right top). Man, that alternator has been around awhile. Your belt is and "AX", meaning "A" profile and cogged to go around small pulleys, which doesn't really look necessary in your case.
How about cleaning off that green and white label hidding behind the belt, find out what sort of engine this is, and get a manual?
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17-11-2021, 07:29
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Re: Belt squealing
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Originally Posted by tkeithlu
Further figuring out your manual-less engine. The belt goes around tour crankshaft (bottom), water pump (top left) and alternator (right top). Man, that alternator has been around awhile. Your belt is and "AX", meaning "A" profile and cogged to go around small pulleys, which doesn't really look necessary in your case.
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Additionally to the comments above, from the pics it appears your belt is sitting too low in the pulley groove and most likely not the correct width for those pulleys. The belt should be level w/the top of the pulley edge or slightly above (depending who you talk with about belts). Also if there is any corrosion on the pulleys where the belt will hit, you may want to take some emery cloth and sand it smooth. This will increase the life of your belt.
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17-11-2021, 09:12
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Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Port Charlotte Fl
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Re: Belt squealing
I replaced the fresh water pump.. but I don't know how to bleed the system so no air bubbles are trapped. Any suggestions??
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17-11-2021, 09:15
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Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Port Charlotte Fl
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Re: Belt squealing
Can anyone help me with suggestions on how to bleed the fresh water cycle?. New pump installed
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17-11-2021, 21:04
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Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Port Charlotte Fl
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Re: Belt squealing
All set... All bled.. running nice and cool.. thank you
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18-11-2021, 06:39
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Boat: Bruce Bingham Christina 49
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Re: Belt squealing
Did you change the belt and go slightly wider?
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18-11-2021, 09:03
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Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Port Charlotte Fl
Boat: 34ft Irwin Citation
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Re: Belt squealing
Keep the same belt as I caught it in time.. still good... Thank you
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18-11-2021, 10:27
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Re: Belt squealing
From the pics it didn't look like the belt was riding correctly in the pulley V.
When you replace the belt next time it should sit like this:
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