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betachz · 05-04-2008, 07:48

I'm looking for a catamaran that is ready for blue water cruising, has loads of creature comforts, good handling, etc... what is considered the best all around Cat manufacturer out there? I'm currently looking at Catana 431's as they are in my price range of about $200,000 - $300,000 US and seem to have what I'm looking for, as well as good upwind performance and plenty of clearance under the deck.

Does anyone have any tips on what to make sure I look for in a Cat, things that woudl disqualify a cat, etc...?

I currently sail Hobie 20 Racing Catamaran and I'm looking to take my wife and I on a circumnavigation at some point in the future and want to be sure the boat I purchase is up for the job.

Thanks in advance. I'd appreciate anything you might have to offer.

-beta

imagine2frolic · 05-04-2008, 08:07

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cchesley · 05-04-2008, 08:32

People are voyaging in most all of the designs. Whatever you find that works for you will undoubtedly enable a fun experience. I'd just check on whatever owner networks/forums you can find for each manufacturer/designer. You'll quickly hear the 'issues' from those out living with them. Then you can descide for yourself what you can live with.

Jeannius · 05-04-2008, 09:41

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I'm currently looking at Catana 431's as they are in my price range of about $200,000 - $300,000 US

Are you sure? I've never seen a Catana 431 for less than 200k GBP which is around $400kUS. Yes there are old 42s from the the late 80s early 90s that get down towards the top end of your range but surely not a 431?

Adaero · 05-04-2008, 09:53

I agree with Mike. I have never seen a Catana 431 for anything near the prices you quoted. I would have said nearer $400-$500 if you find one for $250 tread carefully as it's way below market price.
Adaero

slomotion · 05-04-2008, 09:54

Yachtworld shows 11 Catana 431s for sale. The lowest asking price is well over 500K USD:

catana 431 (Sail) Multi-hull Boats For Sale

betachz · 05-04-2008, 15:14

Yes.. you're right... I guess my eyes are bigger than my wallet

I had seen a couple 38's and the like for nearer that price... but your'e right.. the 431 is outside that budget. Are there smaller, blue water capable Cats out there... if the Catana 38 would be enough for comfortable sailing I like that particular boat design (center cockpit) and such.

Some suggested manufacturers, your favorites, what you think I should take a look at would be great?! What have you see people using the most?

Thanks again!

beta.

2Hulls · 06-04-2008, 09:00

beta - have you sailed any cruising cats? Way different than your H-20. I recommend you consider chartering some cats to get a better idea of what's available in production boats, which is where your budget will keep you.

Dave

betachz · 06-04-2008, 14:15

2hulls,

Actually I'm already on it

working on getting all my ASA certs under my belt and then will start to charter some different boats down and around the BVI's to get a better idea of what I'll end up with.

Thanks
beta.

**David M** · 06-04-2008, 14:22

Does it need to be a catamaran? You can get a pretty decent sized "half-hull" in your price range. Once you load up a small catamaran with all the cruising goodies they are not that much faster than a comparably priced monohull. Weight is the enemy of catamarans.

betachz · 06-04-2008, 14:47

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Originally Posted by David M

Does it need to be a catamaran? You can get a pretty decent sized "half-hull" in your price range. Once you load up a small catamaran with all the cruising goodies they are not that much faster than a comparably priced monohull. Weight is the enemy of catamarans.

David,

I've given much thought to the monohull idea but I think the wife and I would appreciate the space and creature comforts that a cat can provide. Feeling like being in a floating RV for years doesn't sound to good to either of us. I like the relative stability of the cat (I'm more familiar with how they like to sail) and again the square footage of living area are all huge +'s to us. Speed is nice but not my main objective when looking at cats. I am also partial to the design and asethetics of the cat. I'm a graphic designer and the "classic" woodwork, fittings, and whatnot of most blue water monohulls, gets on my very last nerve.

-beta

**David M** · 06-04-2008, 14:56

I grew up around and raced Hobies as well. I too like cats much better than monohulls. I was just throwing an idea out there. I am the same way about external wood and unnecessary ornamentation on a boat....its more work than its worth and it is generally ugly. Thats just my taste in boats...others like the old pirate ship look.

Tropic Cat · 06-04-2008, 16:13

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Originally Posted by betachz

Yes.. you're right... I guess my eyes are bigger than my wallet

I had seen a couple 38's and the like for nearer that price... but your'e right.. the 431 is outside that budget. Are there smaller, blue water capable Cats out there... if the Catana 38 would be enough for comfortable sailing I like that particular boat design (center cockpit) and such.

Some suggested manufacturers, your favorites, what you think I should take a look at would be great?! What have you see people using the most?

Thanks again!

beta.

Find a Catalac 10 or 12 meter or a Prout 37 or 39 in good shape and they will work just fine. Have ssullivan post some photos of his 10 meter catalac and you'll be pleasently surprised at the room and solid construction.

Jacana · 06-04-2008, 22:54

Come across quite a few boats sailed to Australia from overseas have owned a mono and now am enjoying a cat.Have noticed some vessels which are supposed to be "blue water" have been built and kitted out very light.These vessels are more coastal than blue water,buyer beware.The reason for me buying the simmons maxim is the true blue water capability the factory even sail deliver to anywhere in the world ,guess thats standing by your product.Yes i would and will sail mine round the world hopefully leave next march and wouldnt hesitate to recommend these to you.You should be able to pick up a two year old for about 300k.Good luck Geoff.