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10-08-2008, 22:03
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cruiser
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Brecon, Wales
Boat: St Francis 50 on order
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What sails for SF 50
Being sailed by just two if us we are currently thinking of the following sails:-
Self tacking jib for work around UK coast - makes for easy sailing.
Standard roller reefing job and mainsail with single line reefing on mainsail.
Screacher and Code Zero both to go on a the same roller furler attached to the bowsprit (I mean one or the other at any given time)
This means that all sails are roller furled except for the Mainsail.
We would alternate between the Code Zero and Screacher depending on conditions.
Am i thinking along the right lines for a set of sails?
We would also have the storm sails of course.
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11-08-2008, 02:11
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what sails?
Lovely boat Gludy,
I'd probably flick the code O and take along an asymmetric spinnaker optimized for deep running , for when the wind goes way aft. Socks make the handling easy.
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11-08-2008, 05:46
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cruiser
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I am trying to use roller furler sails so that they are easy to deploy.
I can only have either a code zero or a screacher on the furler at one time but I assume that this would be easier than using a full spinnaker?
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11-08-2008, 06:40
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Marine Service Provider
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This may come as a shock - but I'm with Catty. Flick the zero and go with a good sock controlled spinnaker
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11-08-2008, 12:35
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Cat in New Zealand, trawler in Ventura
Boat: 46' custom cat "Rum Doxy", Roughwater 41"Abreojos"
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Factor
This may come as a shock - but I'm with Catty. Flick the zero and go with a good sock controlled spinnaker
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Gives me hope for peace in the middle east!
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11-08-2008, 12:53
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Location: Ohio
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One thing
to bear in mind is that Gludy is a new sailor. Maybe window shade sailing for a time will be a good thing. The assy is going to be in the neighborhood of 2k sq ft and that is large enough to drag you across the deck when not enough wraps are on the winch or someone inadvertantly removes a few too many wraps.........
Congrats on your new boat and welcome to the darkside, I'm sure you will truly enjoy sailing.
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11-08-2008, 13:05
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cruiser
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Location: Brecon, Wales
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Joli
Would you mind explaining what you mean by your last post?
Window shade sailing? Do you mean roller furling?
What is assy?
It may take me some time to learn the language of the dark side.
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11-08-2008, 13:56
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CF Adviser Moderator Emeritus
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Hi, Gludy.
The "assy" is an assymetric spinnaker. You got the other one right.
Congrats on your new boat! The fitting out process can be a real job, but fun, as long as you don't look at your bank balance too often!
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11-08-2008, 14:18
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I would say that the Code 0 is really nice and easy to use, especially in light to medium wind from around 50-60 degrees relative and back to around 120 degrees.
Make sure to get some attachment points for barber-haulers for the jib, and the larger sails as well.
For downwind work use a gennaker/asymmetric whatever you want to call it. You can get a furler for these to ease handling, BAMA and Profurl make them.
Just my 2 cents.
Cheers
Alan
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11-08-2008, 14:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joli
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Joli
That's not a bad looking half-boat! Even has 2 helms just like a cat
What is it?
regards
Alan
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11-08-2008, 14:54
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"Congrats on your new boat! The fitting out process can be a real job, but fun, as long as you don't look at your bank balance too often!"
Thank you. I do not think there will be any balance worth looking at when the process is over.
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11-08-2008, 15:04
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It's probably a Swan 80? Not sure, just showing what a bigger assy kite looks like. It looks nice and easy but pulls a bit harder then folks expect. We raced last weekend and sheet load for the #1 upwind was maybe 10,000 pounds? When you get a big free flying sail the loads are sometimes deceptive. I would advise Gludy (if he gets a kite) to check with the maker and determine if the assy kite can be free flown or will it require some support if it is flown from the mast head, maybe the main needs to be set?
Gludy, window shade sailing is as you suspect, rollem up sails.
There are two types of kites (in general) Assy: asymmetrical and Sym: Symmetrical. Sym kites require a pole unless your boat has breadth (as yours does) and is used when you dive. (i.e. sail a deep app angle)
Congrats again on your new boat!
Better?
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11-08-2008, 16:55
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11-08-2008, 23:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gludy
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Assymetrical
Assy
You will also hear "A-Sail" - as in "Let's get the a-sail up"
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12-08-2008, 02:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joli
to bear in mind is that Gludy is a new sailor. Maybe window shade sailing for a time will be a good thing. The assy is going to be in the neighborhood of 2k sq ft and that is large enough to drag you across the deck when not enough wraps are on the winch or someone inadvertantly removes a few too many wraps.........
Congrats on your new boat and welcome to the darkside, I'm sure you will truly enjoy sailing.
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I agree with that. Don't worry about a spinnaker to start with, just the working sails and maybe a reacher on a furler. Later, when you have a better idea of what you want, you can talk to a sailmaker about a spinnaker.
You can get a wider range of sailing angles out of your reacher or an assymetrical spinnaker if you set up your prodder so it can be swung from side to side.
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