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Old 27-03-2017, 14:30   #31
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Re: What $190k Gets You: Updating a Lagoon 440

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Well, let me be honest. Not impressed at all with what actually was done for $190K. For me it would be impossible to justify spending 190K on paint, underwater lights, few batteries and solar panels, bimini, some railing and few other cosmetic things. If you would post approximate cost of each of these upgrades separately, it would help to understand things.
As noted in OP, there were a lot of mistakes on preparation and paint stage.
And actually, one question arises. Was there particular reason to buy cheap catamaran and almost double its price by doing upgrades? Considering that 2006-2009 Lagoon 440 can be purchased currently for 250-270K (or less, taking in consideration negotiation), plus 190 spent, that's 460K approx.
400K will buy 2009 Lagoon 500 today. Yes, it's not silver and has no underwater lights, but it has different level of comfort, and still, 60K will be remaining for refit...

2009 Lagoon 500 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
Pretty cold.

Some people just enjoy creating a car, boat, airplane to look the way they want it. Does it have to make economic sense when its not your money. Can't you just enjoy the end result?
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Old 27-03-2017, 14:38   #32
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Jenta -

Thanks for the kind words! And yeah - the Wynns are super cool people and when we were in the yard together having a beer with them to close out the day was always a highlight.

As for your journey... the one item I would stress is to buy a solid boat. I was lucky enough to pick up a boat that was in great condition and it allowed me to focus on these more out of the box projects.

We sailed this boat off and on for three years and during this time we didn't really do any upgrades - just maintenance. So the total we spent wouldn't have seen so much (to me at least) if I spread it out over three years. My thinking was - don't buy any electronics or tech stuff until you are close to leaving - then you'll have the latest and greatest for your trip.

Anyway - if you have any specific questions just ask here or PM me! Hope to see you out there one day! _steve
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Old 27-03-2017, 15:04   #33
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Re: What $190k Gets You: Updating a Lagoon 440

Wow! Thanks for all the documentation! A great read on customizing a boat, though I think you may have turned me off ever painting one on my own!

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Old 27-03-2017, 16:11   #34
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Re: What $190k Gets You: Updating a Lagoon 440

Well, that was an hour's reading that was worthwhile. Thank you for posting all the details, it's very impressive.

The Warn winch you had installed - is it a special model or one of the ATV winches?
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Re: What $190k Gets You: Updating a Lagoon 440

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Well, let me be honest. Not impressed at all with what actually was done for $190K. For me it would be impossible to justify spending 190K on paint, underwater lights, few batteries and solar panels, bimini, some railing and few other cosmetic things. If you would post approximate cost of each of these upgrades separately, it would help to understand things.
As noted in OP, there were a lot of mistakes on preparation and paint stage.
And actually, one question arises. Was there particular reason to buy cheap catamaran and almost double its price by doing upgrades? Considering that 2006-2009 Lagoon 440 can be purchased currently for 250-270K (or less, taking in consideration negotiation), plus 190 spent, that's 460K approx.
400K will buy 2009 Lagoon 500 today. Yes, it's not silver and has no underwater lights, but it has different level of comfort, and still, 60K will be remaining for refit...

2009 Lagoon 500 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
I'm starting to believe you've never owned a big boat.
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Old 27-03-2017, 17:52   #36
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Re: What $190k Gets You: Updating a Lagoon 440

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Well, let me be honest. Not impressed at all with what actually was done for $190K. For me it would be impossible to justify spending 190K on paint, underwater lights, few batteries and solar panels, bimini, some railing and few other cosmetic things. If you would post approximate cost of each of these upgrades separately, it would help to understand things.
As noted in OP, there were a lot of mistakes on preparation and paint stage.
And actually, one question arises. Was there particular reason to buy cheap catamaran and almost double its price by doing upgrades? Considering that 2006-2009 Lagoon 440 can be purchased currently for 250-270K (or less, taking in consideration negotiation), plus 190 spent, that's 460K approx.
400K will buy 2009 Lagoon 500 today. Yes, it's not silver and has no underwater lights, but it has different level of comfort, and still, 60K will be remaining for refit...

2009 Lagoon 500 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
Jealous? Good on him, if he has the money time and desire, then why not?
I say well done.

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Old 27-03-2017, 18:58   #37
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I am in awe of you skills, your tenacity, your vision (and your documentation).
Wow. Great job. Thanks for your write up. Love the boat. Very jealous of the paint job!
Dismiss the naysayers. "Enjoy your ride". I'm sure you will take great pleasure in her especially after all you dedicated efforts.
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Old 27-03-2017, 21:58   #38
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Beautiful! Thank you for sharing your ideas & work. Imitation is the greatest form of flattery and I hope to steal some of your ideas latter!
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Hey, thanks for the thread. Excellent reference for anyone thinking of upgrades and a great job on the boat!
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Re: What $190k Gets You: Updating a Lagoon 440

Thanks, UAU really thank you!

Great thread, lots of ideas and a great amount of inspiration!

Thanks for putting the efort of writing this thread. It took me 1+ hour to read and I enjoyed every minute of it! I can imagine the time it took to write it....

I hope you will enjoy all the upgrades for a long time

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Old 28-03-2017, 09:20   #41
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Re: What $190k Gets You: Updating a Lagoon 440

Great thread full of practical advices. It should be in a book maybe integrated with all other details and experiences. Thanks
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Old 28-03-2017, 12:23   #42
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Omg, wow! Amazing job with the boat and the documentation!

Really inspiring to see. I guess and hope we will see more projects like this in the future.

Many people have the dreams but not many makes it a reality like this.

Wishing you the best of luck with the beautiful boat.
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Old 28-03-2017, 19:00   #43
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Amazing project from start to finish! You have a talent for finding gifted craftsman and getting the results you're looking for. Thanks for taking the time to share. Mike
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Quite impressive. Good luck with the well tailored boat.
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Re: What $190k Gets You: Updating a Lagoon 440

Thanks all for the comments! Working on a few more projects right now - will post them soon.


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Well, that was an hour's reading that was worthwhile. Thank you for posting all the details, it's very impressive.

The Warn winch you had installed - is it a special model or one of the ATV winches?
I think it is the a normal Warn... maybe $250 or so? That switch position is just a killer though.... could have really hosed me up. The boat was in the up position and when the switch shorted out it started paying out line.... If it would have tried to pull the boat closer it probably would have jacked up the aluminum as the line is that Dyneema rated for a pretty good load....!
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