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24-02-2024, 10:31
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Join Date: Oct 2023
Posts: 73
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trimaran neel , bad news,,,
check it out after 4 years,,,
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25-02-2024, 00:32
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#2
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: currently...Croatia
Boat: Neel 43
Posts: 53
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Re: trimaran neel , bad news,,,
Wow, thats bad....just met another Neel 47 reporting similar issues.
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25-02-2024, 01:20
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Moderator

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Solent, England
Boat: Moody 31
Posts: 18,727
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Re: trimaran neel , bad news,,,
You would just cry wouldn't you. Imagine how much work is involved in grinding back each seam one at a time and glassing it back up. Then when ever you are in bad weather thinking if the repairs are good enough. Finally, the impact on resale values, would you buy one having seen this video
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25-02-2024, 02:12
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: currently...Croatia
Boat: Neel 43
Posts: 53
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Re: trimaran neel , bad news,,,
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25-02-2024, 02:19
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Moderator

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Solent, England
Boat: Moody 31
Posts: 18,727
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Re: trimaran neel , bad news,,,
Quote:
Originally Posted by COOGOR
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No point, I have no intention of buying one and would be wary of even sailing on board one.
The links require a registration btw.
Pete
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25-02-2024, 02:22
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#6
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: currently...Croatia
Boat: Neel 43
Posts: 53
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Re: trimaran neel , bad news,,,
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete7
No point, I have no intention of buying one and would be wary of even sailing on board one.
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Of course not you, but @beta600 should post his video....
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25-02-2024, 04:51
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Panschwitz, Germany
Boat: Woods Mira 35 Catamaran
Posts: 4,754
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Re: trimaran neel , bad news,,,
Sorry for the existing clients! Terrible if you bought such a boat at full value.
Still, let me know when the reputation is gone and resale values have bottomed out.
I'd dive into it if the boat costs very little. Not afraid of hard work for a year.
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25-02-2024, 06:05
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Around
Boat: Woods Vardo 34 Cat
Posts: 3,937
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Re: trimaran neel , bad news,,,
Friend of mine bought on in the med last year and is now in the Caribbean. Maybe his boat used a bad run of adhesive? Is surprising that none of that is glassed together.
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25-02-2024, 09:02
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: forest city
Boat: no boat any more
Posts: 2,525
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Re: trimaran neel , bad news,,,
should be a matter for a fraud charge & wilful endangering of the safety of the buyer (or whatever the correct lawyer-english wording is).
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25-02-2024, 10:34
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2023
Posts: 73
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Re: trimaran neel , bad news,,,
Quote:
Originally Posted by COOGOR
Of course not you, but @beta600 should post his video....
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you are a NEEL OWNER, SO POST IT,,,
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25-02-2024, 15:45
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Lifeaboard
Boat: FP Lavezzi 40
Posts: 4,435
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Re: trimaran neel , bad news,,,
Very well know, belgian court derated the the Neel51 from Cat A to hardly made cat B.
Also the 51 is not build accorinding to the approaved plans, different materials was used and eg glued parts the glue was by far to thick far outside the allowed tolerance.
I am surprised that people buy neels, it started with the Neel 45 where on a boat show the steps into the hull broke under my feet...everywhere sloppy craftsmanship on that 45 and saw that on another 45 too. Then 51 and now 47.
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25-02-2024, 15:55
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#12
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Around
Boat: Woods Vardo 34 Cat
Posts: 3,937
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Re: trimaran neel , bad news,,,
When I was in NZ in 2021 the lone Neel was denied insurance by all insurers. A rather wealthy chap that was a RNZYS member offered private insurance with a reasonable premium with the condition he would be taken sailing anytime he wanted to go.
I moderately advised my friend last year against buying the Neel if I recall correctly.
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25-02-2024, 16:23
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Senior Cruiser

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
Posts: 31,437
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Re: trimaran neel , bad news,,,
I turned down a couple of these as delivery skipper a couple of years back.. France to Canaries and possibly on to Caribe if I wished.
Was concerned about their ocean capabilities.
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25-02-2024, 19:10
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#14
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: EC
Boat: Cruising Catamaran
Posts: 1,450
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Re: trimaran neel , bad news,,,
He need to put a grinder to the cracks on the structural bulk heads (not the panels) and see if the crack goes into solid glass and not just the goop and brittle gelcoat covering and put that in his video.
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25-02-2024, 19:14
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#15
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 2,148
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Re: trimaran neel , bad news,,,
Of course these are not the only boats built this terrible way. The proper way to build a fiberglass boat is to make ALL of the parts one integral structural piece. All the bulkheads, all the furniture, everything.
On our boat every single piece is all part of the structure. We can be sailing close hauled in 25 knot of wind and 6 foot seas and the boat is SILENT. No creaks, groans, or other mechanical noises. This is the way a modern fiberglass boat SHOULD be. A monocoque structure that is rigid and solid. The idea that flexible adhesives are the right way to join parts of a boat together is... just wrong.
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