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Old 25-02-2017, 16:32   #91
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I know you didnt miss the principle in the question..

No principles in that question
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Old 25-02-2017, 16:48   #92
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Re: The Reason People Are Moving Away From Monohulls

Hey people.

Lets be nice about cruising videos and the people and leave all the sexist and derogatory comments out of our observations.... it might mean you get to keep your otherwise witty comments in a post..
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Old 25-02-2017, 16:50   #93
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FWIW, equally priced, wouldn't matter if the person (me) doesn't want those particular tradeoffs.

I am not Jane Doe, however, and from reading around CF I've accepted the idea that there are women who want cats as well as men who will provide them. (Both).

I do not think it is a class thing, per se, either. I remember all too well a monohull cruiser telling me some years ago, she saw no excuse whatsoever for not having unlimited water and comfort on her boat, meaning, a genset and a watermaker. I believe other women drive decisions like these, thereby creating lots of work for other people, and this is "good," right? creating jobs?

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On edit: and for those of you who are consumers of vlogs and blogs, oftentimes events are exaggerated to improve dramatic impact. Viewer beware, it is possible to misrepresent things here, too. Think Steven Spielberg and special effects. Or, someone put in a blog that my Jim "almost died", and that was totally untrue. Caveat emptor, again.
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Old 25-02-2017, 17:04   #94
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That is begging for money in the 21st century. I dunno, seeing someone with a 1Mio-Dollar-Boat begging for cash, this just looks wrong to me on so many levels.
Really, a movie maker who sells his/her work to a television station is a beggar, or get their work shown at a movie theater where patrons pay to view are beggars. I guess the actors and all involved in the project must be beggars too. Sheez , Give up the lemon juice, step out of the 19th century my friend. I feel sad for you and yours that you have to live with such negativity.
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I know you didnt miss the principle in the question..

That kind of principle reduces the interest for many of us.
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I dont want to feel constrained in a half-size hull, with a long corridor like a jail

I dont want two engines, positively so!

I want to be able to see beyond the bow from the cockpit astern

I dont want a flying bridge 14' upon the waterline

I dont want to see a boom 18' higher than the sea level

I dont want to hear waves squashing beneath the hull, nor the jerks and shrieks of a tensile structure

I hate thinking of walking/laying on a net

I fight windage

I much praise pointing ability and low leeward draft

If any, l'd try a TRI, for real performance


That said, l accept anyone's choice,so far mine is preserved :-)

And, l consider the cat concept perfect on motor yachts.

If a cat looks " easier " to the many, welcome be it, for a new generation of sailors. I know, it is like saying that an Audi variomatic 4TT has double the power v a Ferrari GTO.

which one would you like to drive and to own!?
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Sheez , Give up the lemon juice, step out of the 19th century my friend. I feel sad for you and yours that you have to live with such negativity.
Well, it probably all depends on at which end of the food-chain you are. Anyway, it doesn't change anything to argue over economic reality. If I would be one of the top 1% I would probably also say "shut up", but I am unfortunately more a part of the bottom 5-10%. If you had to save for 2-3 years for a short sailing holiday, perhaps you would think differently too.
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35-40 knot wind for 4 days, 3-5 metre beam seas, and we could still leave our coffee cups on the table. They wouldn't spill, but they'd slide off after about 5 minutes. Rubber placemats solved that.
True.. but point up and they start bouncing off the table..
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True.. but point up and they start bouncing off the table..
Here’s how I keep my coffee and beer on the table in almost any sea state:


And it doesn’t cost me $300,000 to do it .
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A sturdy professional skipper told me he suffered from seasickness just once, when on a rough sea with a cat....... maybe it was the table bouncing up :-P
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That's too funny can't say I have ever seen a mono hull cruised like that unless the skipper didn't know his butt from a hole in the ground. The boat is way overpowered even to the point that the rudder is ventilating. Looking at the little rail meat he's obviously racing but probably near the rear of the fleet. But you knew that even when you posted the picture.

I don't know what the break down is in total sales on Cats between charter and private sales but it's very believable that the charter sales have moved heavily towards Cats as they make so much sense for charters. I'm sure because of this the monos that would normally be sold to charters are going down quickly. Certainly many individual buyers are also choosing Cats but again I don't know the numbers but there are still a ton of monos being sold to private individuals. I like certain Cats for sure and I see the appeal but I also like monos, great world we live in.
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That's too funny can't say I have ever seen a mono hull cruised like that unless the skipper didn't know his butt from a hole in the ground. The boat is way overpowered even to the point that the rudder is ventilating. Looking at the little rail meat he's obviously racing but probably near the rear of the fleet. But you knew that even when you posted the picture.



I don't know what the break down is in total sales on Cats between charter and private sales but it's very believable that the charter sales have moved heavily towards Cats as they make so much sense for charters. I'm sure because of this the monos that would normally be sold to charters are going down quickly. Certainly many individual buyers are also choosing Cats but again I don't know the numbers but there are still a ton of monos being sold to private individuals. I like certain Cats for sure and I see the appeal but I also like monos, great world we live in.

I'm glad you took my post as being humorous as that was the intention! Once again I forgot the emoji smiley face.
I'm with you, I also like certain cats and monohulls as well. I also dislike certain cats and monohull. Nothing is perfect
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When the cat does that, and they do, it probably means a hull has buried itself, and the occupants are about to see how she sails while inverted. I realize this is over the top, but cats do that too.
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Affordable financing? What does that mean? Did they pay full price and simply got a low interest rate or did they get deep discounts plus a low interest rate or what?
The latest video leaves that answer unclear. Probably deliberate.
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