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13-07-2015, 12:15
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Location: Tavernier, Fl
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Re: Squeaky daggerboard
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Soft rubber wedge between board and deck opening?
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The bottom would still tend to work though I suppose?
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13-07-2015, 14:21
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#17
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Location: W Carib
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Re: Squeaky daggerboard
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Originally Posted by Dave852
The bottom would still tend to work though I suppose?
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Maybe. Depends on details of locker/boards I suspect.
Of course, if you ever managed to suck that wedge down into the locker, like forgetting it was there and dropping the board, that would not be good, but I bet the board wouldn't sqeak any more! ;-)
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13-07-2015, 15:10
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Location: Brisbane, Qld, Australia
Boat: Fastback 43 catamaran
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Re: Squeaky daggerboard
Thanks everyone. We'll experiment with some of those ideas and no doubt sleep a little more soundly
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13-07-2015, 15:22
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Re: Squeaky daggerboard
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Originally Posted by Dave852
Wow, that's a lot of tolerance. I put three coats of regular bottom paint on mine and could not get it back in. Had to remove the paint and use the spray can bottom paint instead.
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Yeah, I did build in a lot of clearance. Bob Oram, the designer, strongly advised me to. Once you start glassing in the case to the hull, you reduce the clearance, then there's all the fairing and paint, antifoul...
Nothing worse than finding the board won't fit the case. If you make it a little loose it's easy to pack out the gap.
Back to the OP's question - our board doesn't squeak, but sometimes it can knock. I've found tensioning the uphaul line against the downhaul line can reduce it a lot.
But my first suggestion was serious. You really don't need boards down at anchor, only for upwind sailing.
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13-07-2015, 15:24
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Re: Squeaky daggerboard
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Originally Posted by colemj
Probably need some board to motor more than 100% of the time…
Mark
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Shh! That was my secret.
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16-07-2015, 19:10
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Re: Squeaky daggerboard
You can get various size wedges from Clark Rubber, they work for us.
Henry
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19-09-2015, 15:18
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Location: Brisbane, Qld, Australia
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Re: Squeaky daggerboard
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Originally Posted by 44'cruisingcat
Yeah, I did build in a lot of clearance. Bob Oram, the designer, strongly advised me to. Once you start glassing in the case to the hull, you reduce the clearance, then there's all the fairing and paint, antifoul...
Nothing worse than finding the board won't fit the case. If you make it a little loose it's easy to pack out the gap.
Back to the OP's question - our board doesn't squeak, but sometimes it can knock. I've found tensioning the uphaul line against the downhaul line can reduce it a lot.
But my first suggestion was serious. You really don't need boards down at anchor, only for upwind sailing.
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Thanks for all the great ideas. Tensioning the uphaul and downhall seems to do the trick
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19-09-2015, 16:29
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Location: Winters cruising; summers Chesapeake Bay
Boat: Catana 471
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Re: Squeaky daggerboard
The previous posters are right - if your boards are making noise, raise them because if they're making noise it means they're not loaded and you don't need them. When your boards are needed they will be loaded and can't rattle or squeak. On a cruising cat there's no need to use only the leeward board when sailing to windward - why not get the lift from two and share the load? Plus, using both boards symmetrically eliminates the need to raise one and lower the other during a tack when you've got better things to do and the friction from loading makes raising and lowering difficult.
Dave
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19-09-2015, 17:11
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Location: Brisbane, Qld, Australia
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Squeaky daggerboard
thanks dave, probably opening up a can of worms here but my cat only has a starboard daggerboard, and the hulls draw .7m or 2 and a bit feet so i use daggerboard to help point and on a reach but not down wind, it seems to do the job nicely. we have only had yacht for 4 months so am very much learning, i will use daggerboard less and see how she sails.
Cheers and thanks again for all the tips
Dean
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20-09-2015, 06:05
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Location: Winters cruising; summers Chesapeake Bay
Boat: Catana 471
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Re: Squeaky daggerboard
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Originally Posted by Sardean
my cat only has a starboard daggerboard, and the hulls draw .7m or 2 and a bit feet so i use daggerboard to help point and on a reach but not down wind
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One is better than none, IMHO. The designer chose a compromise and the performance difference may be very subtle between one board or two.
Just experiment what works best. For me, the boards become necessary with AWA around 60* and less.
Dave
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20-09-2015, 18:05
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Re: Squeaky daggerboard
I did read somewhere that Roger Shuttleworth did some tank testing and found that for a cruising boat, one board could actually be faster.
You really only need to have two boards if you're going to be flying a hull. But cruisers don't do that. He found that a single, slightly bigger board can produce as much lift, but with less drag.
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20-09-2015, 18:10
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Location: Brisbane, Qld, Australia
Boat: Fastback 43 catamaran
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Re: Squeaky daggerboard
Thanks that is great info. We are very happy with our fastback 43's performance and have not noticed any negatives with 1 daggerboard yet for cruising. I did find it strange when I bought the cat but no one I spoke to thought it would be a problem.
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21-09-2015, 06:58
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#28
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Toronto summer rest somewhere else
Boat: Outremer 45/pdq36
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Re: Squeaky daggerboard
I have the same problem on Outremer 45 original style. The boards bang even going to weather will need wedge on a stick
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21-09-2015, 12:26
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#29
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Now limited to seasonal NE sailing
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Re: Squeaky daggerboard
We used thick Teflon tapes in the trunks. Stopped any motion and makes the boards go up and down like slickorice.
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