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29-01-2013, 12:28
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#31
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Petersburg, AK
Boat: Outremer 50S
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Re: Slightly beached
To paraphrase our famous ex-president, "it depends on what your definition of 'twin' is".
Catamaran hulls are indeed twins of each other, they are mirror-symetric, the same length, breadth, depth, etc. Twins. Proa hulls not so much.
If catamaran meant two hulls wouldn't it be simpler to say "two" rather than "twin"?
Way down in the weeds here, none of us with anything better to do?
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29-01-2013, 12:34
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#32
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Re: Slightly beached
Quote:
Originally Posted by David_Old_Jersey
Definition of CATAMARAN
: a vessel (as a sailboat) with twin hulls and usually a deck or superstructure connecting the hulls
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So a motor vessel with two hulls isn't a catamaran?
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29-01-2013, 12:36
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#33
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Armchair Bucketeer
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,012
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Re: Slightly beached
Quote:
Originally Posted by 44'cruisingcat
So a motor vessel with two hulls isn't a catamaran?
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It says "as a sailboat" not only.
and clearly Catamaran did originally apply only to sailing vessels (given that motors not yet invented!, let alone Proas - I think)......but nonetheless the definition has changed over the years (as words do) to include all manner of boats with two hulls, some twin, some identical twin and some 2nd cousins!
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29-01-2013, 12:40
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Re: Slightly beached
It doesn't say a vessel with two hulls can only be a catamaran either.
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29-01-2013, 12:40
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Armchair Bucketeer
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,012
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Re: Slightly beached
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dsanduril
Way down in the weeds here, none of us with anything better to do?
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Nope
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29-01-2013, 12:58
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#36
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Petersburg, AK
Boat: Outremer 50S
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Re: Slightly beached
Since it says "usually a deck or superstructure connecting the hulls" I want to see the unusual catamaran without the connection between the hulls
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29-01-2013, 13:00
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#37
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Re: Slightly beached
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dsanduril
Since it says "usually a deck or superstructure connecting the hulls" I want to see the unusual catamaran without the connection between the hulls
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Poles and a net?
Some info about proas: The Proa History
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29-01-2013, 15:33
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#38
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Bradenton, Fl
Boat: 1974 Cal 29
Posts: 148
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Re: Slightly Beached
Actually, (sailing) proas came first, and well ahead of catamarans by a few hundred if not thousand years.
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30-01-2013, 04:09
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#39
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 911
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Re: Slightly Beached
I hope the rudders(s) are folding or retracting of sorts, otherwise they would be damaged during the beaching.
It was there for 2 days before the photos were taken.
It was rather windy so I suspect it was weather related. It's normally parked next to the brand spanking new and sparkling Gary Lidgard Pacific 46 (theres another thread on that one) and the 46 had moved to another mooring so something was going on with the jostling of moorings.
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30-01-2013, 05:23
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: sunshine coast, aus
Boat: AHD windsurfer :p
Posts: 306
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Re: Slightly Beached
Quote:
Originally Posted by ausaviator
I hope the rudders(s) are folding or retracting of sorts, otherwise they would be damaged during the beaching.
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where are the rudders, do they hang from the deck?
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Sure my windsurfer isn't much of a cruiser but I bet it needs less maintenance than your boat : p
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11-02-2013, 01:31
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 911
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Re: Slightly Beached
Well an update, it seems as though it didn't get away unscathed. There was nobody around to ask what happened in terms of damage.
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27-04-2013, 18:52
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#42
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Media, PA
Boat: Norseboat 17.5
Posts: 33
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Re: Slightly Beached
Bump
Any follow up on this incident? What caused the HarryProa to end up on the beach? It looks none the worse for wear; I'd have to examine the pride of the skipper up close, after a few beers to be certain.
I love the concept of these boats, and have sailed on a catamaran with an aero rig on the Chesapeake... interesting design with definite advantages.
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27-04-2013, 22:11
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#43
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Registered User
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Re: Slightly Beached
Beached as !
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28-04-2013, 17:11
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#44
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 911
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Re: Slightly Beached
Good question Philly, I never found out and don't really have the ability to in the future unless I stumble across someone who knows. It was a very windy weekend and I suspect that simply the mooring let go, it broke, or someone cut it loose as it went with the wind straight to the beach. It was beached-as, as Andrew put it!
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