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15-06-2022, 08:56
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#76
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Santa Cruz
Boat: SAnta Cruz 27
Posts: 7,039
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Re: Seaquest 46 Performance Cruising Catamaran
I realize this is a cruising forum, but it would be really nice if fxykty or Ratel, or other performance catamaran owners could publish polar performance diagrams or tables for their boats in their cruising configurations.
The only way I know to develop these polars collecting them by software like Expedition (not cheap) during sail testing over an extended period, with carefully calibrated instrumentation. Most cruisers don't have the budget or the motivation. In addition, each data point has to be evaluated for biases like current or windshear, so the marketing department doesn't diddle the data.
We probably will never see these polars unless people start seriously racing cats, and will have to make do with inane pronouncements like "faster than wind speed".
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15-06-2022, 11:22
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#77
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Annapolis MD
Boat: 48' Gunboat
Posts: 18
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Re: Seaquest 46 Performance Cruising Catamaran
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Originally Posted by Ratel
We are launching towards the end of September. Weight is guaranteed by the builder at 8200Kg. The payload of approximately 2000kg should be sufficient for us. Bear in mind that we do not have to carry diesel, being an electric boat.Performance sails from OneSails will supply the horsepower. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating...
The mast height tops out at 21meters. Carbon would be nice, but we are going with Aluminium from John Mast in Denmark.
Mike Eaton is the builder. https://eatonmarine.com
Love your Gunboat, which sails are you using?
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Most definitely, the pudding never lies. Hopefully we will see you over here on the east coast after you take delivery
Thank you! We are quite fond of her, although she is proving to be quite an expensive lady lol. Almost finished our 1st major refit, just waiting on a few more parts to arrive. We have a battened square top North Sail 3di ocean main, 3di ocean jib and code zero, North Sail A1 asym in airx 700, and a A4 quantum that has never been out of the bag. Our Marstrom rig is 68' tall, with an overall clearance of 74'.
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15-06-2022, 12:05
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#78
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Moderator
Join Date: May 2014
Boat: Shuttleworth Advantage
Posts: 2,653
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Re: Seaquest 46 Performance Cruising Catamaran
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Originally Posted by donradcliffe
I realize this is a cruising forum, but it would be really nice if fxykty or Ratel, or other performance catamaran owners could publish polar performance diagrams or tables for their boats in their cruising configurations.
The only way I know to develop these polars collecting them by software like Expedition (not cheap) during sail testing over an extended period, with carefully calibrated instrumentation. Most cruisers don't have the budget or the motivation. In addition, each data point has to be evaluated for biases like current or windshear, so the marketing department doesn't diddle the data.
We probably will never see these polars unless people start seriously racing cats, and will have to make do with inane pronouncements like "faster than wind speed".
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There is a Polar (Plugin) generator that is free that is part of OpenCPN
https://www.opencpn.org/wiki/dokuwik...:sailing:polar
I have generated a number for different sail configurations but they are on the boat. It is quite difficult to have sufficient periods of stable conditions to facilitate super accurate results but the results that are produced ar still useable and give real world numbers. Useful also for weather routing.
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15-06-2022, 22:03
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#79
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Dubai
Boat: Seaquest46
Posts: 75
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Re: Seaquest 46 Performance Cruising Catamaran
First look at our boat, emerging from the mould!
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15-06-2022, 22:58
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#80
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Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: SE Asia, for now
Boat: Outremer 55L
Posts: 4,061
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Re: Seaquest 46 Performance Cruising Catamaran
Beauty!!
Are you going to put a hard surface on the chine as it seems to be at max beam? Most modern cats have slab sides that are at great risk of damage in side on contacts. Were very grateful for our near full length aluminium toe rail along the max beam hull deck joint.
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15-06-2022, 23:00
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#81
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Dubai
Boat: Seaquest46
Posts: 75
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Re: Seaquest 46 Performance Cruising Catamaran
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Originally Posted by fxykty
Beauty!!
Are you going to put a hard surface on the chine as it seems to be at max beam? Most modern cats have slab sides that are at great risk of damage in side on contacts. Were very grateful for our near full length aluminium toe rail along the max beam hull deck joint.
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Something to consider, will run the idea by the builder
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16-06-2022, 02:09
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#82
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Join Date: May 2014
Boat: Shuttleworth Advantage
Posts: 2,653
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Re: Seaquest 46 Performance Cruising Catamaran
Very nice!
Yes the chine/flare can be an issue when coming alongside. We have two medium sized ball fenders that sit just under the flair to protect us from walls and pontoons. We also have a rub rail at the gunwall that protected us recently from significant damage on a wall during heavy swells. Consider flat fenders but be prepared for paint//gelcoat damage.
Think carefully about bow cleats. We have 4 bow cleats inside and outside of each bow. Allows for alongside and buoy ties, adjustable bridle for different depths and does not use fairleads that IMO cause chafe.
The reverse bows will be difficult to fender when motoring against a spring line. How are you planning to handle that situation?
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16-06-2022, 05:49
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#83
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Dubai
Boat: Seaquest46
Posts: 75
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Re: Seaquest 46 Performance Cruising Catamaran
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Originally Posted by Tupaia
Very nice!
Yes the chine/flare can be an issue when coming alongside. We have two medium sized ball fenders that sit just under the flair to protect us from walls and pontoons. We also have a rub rail at the gunwall that protected us recently from significant damage on a wall during heavy swells. Consider flat fenders but be prepared for paint//gelcoat damage.
Think carefully about bow cleats. We have 4 bow cleats inside and outside of each bow. Allows for alongside and buoy ties, adjustable bridle for different depths and does not use fairleads that IMO cause chafe.
The reverse bows will be difficult to fender when motoring against a spring line. How are you planning to handle that situation?
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In an alongside situation we would always prefer to use a roving ball fender at the stern and use the motors to move the bow away from the dock. Squeeze the ball fender between the stern and the dock while using differential power to move the bow away.
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16-06-2022, 17:27
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#84
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,939
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Re: Seaquest 46 Performance Cruising Catamaran
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Originally Posted by Ratel
In an alongside situation we would always prefer to use a roving ball fender at the stern and use the motors to move the bow away from the dock. Squeeze the ball fender between the stern and the dock while using differential power to move the bow away.
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I think what Tupaia is asking is how will you rotate on the bow and protect it. Sometimes you have to kick the transom out and rotate on the bow, it happens.
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16-06-2022, 19:46
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#85
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Dubai
Boat: Seaquest46
Posts: 75
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Re: Seaquest 46 Performance Cruising Catamaran
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Originally Posted by Joli
I think what Tupaia is asking is how will you rotate on the bow and protect it. Sometimes you have to kick the transom out and rotate on the bow, it happens.
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With big balls (fenders), some skill and a lot of swearing
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22-06-2022, 14:12
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#86
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: Traverse City, MI
Boat: VW Vanagon Westfalia
Posts: 38
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Re: Seaquest 46 Performance Cruising Catamaran
I highly discourage anyone from investing in a SeaQuest.
My name is Rorke Miller. I am very easily googled.
Reach out if you need to know more and if you are already involved in discussions with SeaQuest.
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22-06-2022, 23:40
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#87
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Dubai
Boat: Seaquest46
Posts: 75
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Re: Seaquest 46 Performance Cruising Catamaran
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Originally Posted by Rorke Miller
I highly discourage anyone from investing in a SeaQuest.
My name is Rorke Miller. I am very easily googled.
Reach out if you need to know more and if you are already involved in discussions with SeaQuest.
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I feel that a comment is warranted here.
I'd like to say as clients and soon to be owners of Hull #1, our dealings with Eaton Marine (Seaquestcatamarans) and Mike Eaton has been nothing but professional and pleasing.
The boat and the building process has exceeded our expectations.
I would advise anybody interested in this boat to contact Mike Eaton directly.
His contact information is:
Mike@eatonmarine.com
+971585113400
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27-06-2022, 07:54
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#88
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Dubai
Boat: Seaquest46
Posts: 75
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Re: Seaquest 46 Performance Cruising Catamaran
Preparing to cut holes in the hull for the foils. The guys are holding up a dummy board to get the exact placement correct.
We should start the lamination of the carbon foils this week.
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06-07-2022, 11:16
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#89
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2022
Posts: 14
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Re: Seaquest 46 Performance Cruising Catamaran
Hi Ratel,
The SQ46 looks like a great boat, congratulations.
Looking at the renders its a little hard to get an appreciation of the Helm. The description make it sound like something unique and not seen before, but what I can make out it looks like what you might see on a HH50 where the helm is entered off the side deck vs like the Outremer 45 where you have both options (side and cockpit). It appears there is seating and the winches appear to be off to the side vs infant of you. No detail on the instrument displays. By chance are you able to post something that has more detail?
Thanks Neil...
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07-07-2022, 02:53
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#90
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Brisbane/Norway
Boat: Mumby 48
Posts: 284
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Re: Seaquest 46 Performance Cruising Catamaran
That's looking amazing Ratel! Keep the photos coming please!
Those boards are huge!
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