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09-01-2007, 23:34
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NZ trimaran hit's whale. WHALE WINS.
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10-01-2007, 00:05
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There it is! Definitive proof of the superiority of Monhulls as ocean going craft. Since only one hull was damaged, it follows that a mono would have missed the whale all together! Monos have a 50% lesser chance of being damaged in whale/boat collisions! (Or I suppose the only hull would have been damaged and the poor fellow would have waited 5 hours in a life raft.)
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10-01-2007, 01:13
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Wait in a liferaft?????
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Originally Posted by yotphix
There it is! Definitive proof of the superiority of Monhulls as ocean going craft. Since only one hull was damaged, it follows that a mono would have missed the whale all together! Monos have a 50% lesser chance of being damaged in whale/boat collisions! (Or I suppose the only hull would have been damaged and the poor fellow would have waited 5 hours in a life raft.)
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Prefer to take my chances remaining on a damaged cat than a liferaft.
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10-01-2007, 06:00
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"But to say they feel remorse or sorrow or anger? It's one of the things that separates humans from animals," he said.
The above is from the article. I don't know about remorse, but I have damn sure been around angry animals. I have seen animals that were certainly sorrowful or grieving. Extrapolating to a whale it seems likely to me they could feel sorrow or remorse. Whether we are capable of sensing that is another question. I'm going with the feelings of the guy on the scene at the time.
Cuttlefish and octopi demonstrate considerable emotion. Professor Barker is spending too much time with tube worms and sea cucumbers and not enough with gastropods or marine mammals.
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10-01-2007, 07:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yotphix
Monos have a 50% lesser chance of being damaged in whale/boat collisions!
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In this case a 66% greater chance of having missed the whale. The whale was probably waiting for lunch.
The reason why Commercial Whalers do not use multihulls is cos' they are easy to sink by whales. and big sharks. and giant squid. and stuff.
Scientific fact that.
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10-01-2007, 08:47
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What interests me is that this is yet another example of a yacht being abandoned which hasn't actually sunk.
Is it that we just don't hear about the times when a yacht is damaged and the crew deal with the problem and make it back to port?
Or maybe I'm being naive in thinking that I'd do everything I could to save the boat and only abandon ship when all hope of keeping it afloat was gone.
In this particular case maybe the hull was damaged beyond any hope of salvation but when I read about boats being abandoned because of a damaged rudder when there's no danger of the boat sinking I must admit to being puzzled!
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10-01-2007, 11:26
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So that's the reason commercial whalers don't use multihulls? Cause they will get sunk by giant squid! Thank god for scientific fact. The planet is flat and the sun revolves around the Earth.
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10-01-2007, 14:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David_Old_Jersey
The reason why Commercial Whalers do not use multihulls is cos' they are easy to sink by whales. and big sharks. and giant squid. and stuff.
Scientific fact that.
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Come on mate , it's not just Multi's that get sunk by the giant squid.
I saw "Pirates of the Carribean II " and even those big 'ol pirate ships were being trashed by "The Kraken"
Dave
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10-01-2007, 14:22
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Don't spoilt it, I haven't seen Pirates II yet!
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15-01-2007, 19:05
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There it is! Definitive proof of the superiority of Monhulls as ocean going craft. Since only one hull was damaged, it follows that a mono would have missed the whale all together! Monos have a 50% lesser chance of being damaged in whale/boat collisions! (Or I suppose the only hull would have been damaged and the poor fellow would have waited 5 hours in a life raft.)
Hmmm, % risk of hitting things.. reminds me of the pilot who SWORE by single engine airplanes, because with a twin engine airplane, "there was twice as much chance of having an engine failure." Forget about flying in a Ford Tri-motor, you must be guaranteed to have one quit!
Let's face it, a whale will usually win in boats less than 100' long and 50 Tons weight, doncha think?
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15-01-2007, 19:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by otgadventures
There it is! Definitive proof of the superiority of Monhulls as ocean going craft. Since only one hull was damaged, it follows that a mono would have missed the whale all together! Monos have a 50% lesser chance of being damaged in whale/boat collisions! (Or I suppose the only hull would have been damaged and the poor fellow would have waited 5 hours in a life raft.)
Hmmm, % risk of hitting things.. reminds me of the pilot who SWORE by single engine airplanes, because with a twin engine airplane, "there was twice as much chance of having an engine failure." Forget about flying in a Ford Tri-motor, you must be guaranteed to have one quit!
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So did this guy ride a unicycle? He really should have had one arm and one leg amputated also - half the chance of injuring one.....
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16-01-2007, 02:34
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17-01-2007, 13:01
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"But to say they feel remorse or sorrow or anger? It's one of the things that separates humans from animals," he said
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According to my research the only thing that separates humans from animals is that humans will drink when they are not thirsty. I cheerfully celebrate my humanity on a regular basis.
Mike
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18-01-2007, 01:35
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Interesting to note that in the local paper (Brisbane Australia) the hull of an upturned power cat was found floating in the sea off moolloolaba. The report said "It is thought that this is not the NZ boat that was hit by a whale recently",
No sh!T sherlock - one was a sailing tri and the other was a power cat - gotta love journalists commitment to the detail.
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18-01-2007, 16:21
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Factor,
I spent 11 years as a paramedic and as such was eyewitness to a lot of incidents that found their way into the news. Never, in 11 years did the print or TV media get the details right in any incident I was involved in. Not once. Makes you wonder how much, if any, of what we see, hear and read in the media can be taken at face value.
Mike
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