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30-06-2017, 22:41
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New ideas...
This concept is interesting... I know there are some very experienced seadogs out there... What do you think to this? www.quadmarine.com
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01-07-2017, 00:20
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Re: New ideas...
Did this come from Marvel Comics? Pretty hard to take seriously...
Jim
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01-07-2017, 01:31
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Re: New ideas...
now if it had retractable rudders and drive trains it might be feasable,however in it's present configuration any grounding would have severe and expensive consequences.
i suspect it also has a million dollar price tag,which is a lot of money for effectively what is a "pontoon boat",easily driven with a pair of outboards,no rudders needed , able to be beached and shallow draft...............
plus the quadmarine has no sails..................
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01-07-2017, 14:09
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Re: New ideas...
"Did this come from Marvel Comics? Pretty hard to take seriously..."
Flying catamarans doing 50 knots.
Mono hulls with foils lifting the hull out of the water under sail and flying.
Racing around the world in 40 days.
GPS and full charts all in a hand held device.
Ten years ago or even less these would have been comic book fantasies as well. Pretty hard to take seriously.......
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01-07-2017, 16:27
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Re: New ideas...
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulinOz
"Did this come from Marvel Comics? Pretty hard to take seriously..."
Flying catamarans doing 50 knots.
Mono hulls with foils lifting the hull out of the water under sail and flying.
Racing around the world in 40 days.
GPS and full charts all in a hand held device.
Ten years ago or even less these would have been comic book fantasies as well. Pretty hard to take seriously.......
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IMO, equating any of the above developments with the subject design is faulty reasoning. I await the actual appearance of these vessels upon the water where realistic evaluations can be made.
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01-07-2017, 17:19
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Re: New ideas...
Unfortunately I've learned over the past five or so years that there simply isn't enough Sun energy in that amount of surface to generate enough electricity to propel the vessel, and battery technology isn't dense enough, yet, to make up the difference.
I wish them luck, but I do not want their product.
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01-07-2017, 21:06
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Re: New ideas...
I do not find the design that comic book, not saying I would want one but it is not that dissimilar to an outboard powered vessel anchored next to me out
front of Abell Point at present.
As far as the ability to power said vessel from solar panels, I do not think it is possible juat at present either.
If I had told you back in 2010 I wanted to install 2,500 watts of solar on my sailing vessel, I would have been laughed of the forum.
Guess what?
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01-07-2017, 22:00
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Re: New ideas...
They apparently had a stand at Annapolis. Would the design be able to incorporate sails? ... And if the "lifted out the water" idea was that good why wouldn't every manufacturer do it?
The design shows additional deck space available for extra panels.
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01-07-2017, 22:27
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Re: New ideas...
Aerial view of a bobsled?
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01-07-2017, 22:50
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Re: New ideas...
I made it to 1.30
Vapourware.
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02-07-2017, 07:12
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Re: New ideas...
I'm not sure why they compare themself with Lagoon 450, since it's not a sailboat.
But, personally, I don't think it's too far fetched that a boat like this could be built as a sailboat. I don't think it necessarily has to be ugly (final design will tell). If this could sail 30% or more faster than competitors, and just as stable, I think it would sell fairly well.
It may be years before a really good version of this is available, but if the physics work better than a Lagoon 450 (or similar), it will sell.
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02-07-2017, 09:12
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Re: New ideas...
Interesting. I can't comment on the engineering, but the design looks well thought-out for utility's sake. Perhaps diesels could be offered as an option? Circuits and salt air make me nervous. Add sails, and let's see how the design competes with proven cruising cats. The sea always has the final word, doesn't it?
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15-07-2017, 22:05
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Re: New ideas...
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulinOz
I do not find the design that comic book, not saying I would want one but it is not that dissimilar to an outboard powered vessel anchored next to me out
front of Abell Point at present.
As far as the ability to power said vessel from solar panels, I do not think it is possible juat at present either.
If I had told you back in 2010 I wanted to install 2,500 watts of solar on my sailing vessel, I would have been laughed of the forum.
Guess what?
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Yes, but that's not because solar panels have gotten more powerful per area, they've just gotten cheaper. If you were to cover a 14m long, 6m wide, boat completely with solar panels producing a respectable 160w/square-meter, you'd still only have 18 horse power. Yes that'll move the boat, but it's not going to be enjoyable.
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