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25-02-2021, 13:41
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Multihull Dynamics Compares Catana 42 and Lagoon 440
Richard Jordan's catamaransite.com is providing educational opportunities for multihull sailors.
Richard invited Cal Markwood, Engineering Analyst for Multihull Dynamics and myself to discuss our current website and how the formulas based on the specifications of the Catana 42 and Lagoon 440 compare to each other.
The video also discusses the upcoming upgrade of the multihulldynamics.com website.
Richard we appreciate you inviting us to do this. Fair Winds my friend.
Pat Ross
Multihull Dynamics.com
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25-02-2021, 15:05
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Re: Multihull Dynamics Compares Catana 42 and Lagoon 440
Pat, I've used your site multiple times and just wanted to say a big thanks for such a great resource[emoji106]
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25-02-2021, 23:52
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Re: Multihull Dynamics Compares Catana 42 and Lagoon 440
Yes a useful site for a preliminary heads up . One thing that could be added is load capacity. Some would like to know what load can be carried (i.e Maximum Displacement - Lightship). The difference between a Catana 42 and a Lagoon 440 would be a large number.
The comparison between the Seawind 1600 and the Lagoon 500 is interesting..
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26-02-2021, 00:39
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Re: Multihull Dynamics Compares Catana 42 and Lagoon 440
Couldn't find the link at first, those two sites could be a bit more user friendly to find content.
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26-02-2021, 00:55
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Re: Multihull Dynamics Compares Catana 42 and Lagoon 440
Who is Richard Jordan? I haven’t been paying attention. Catamaransite.com was sold or changed ownership?
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26-02-2021, 10:13
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Re: Multihull Dynamics Compares Catana 42 and Lagoon 440
Sort of like comparing Ferrari to Ford F-150.
Apples and coconuts.
Catana: Fast and adequately strong for most situations.
Lagoon: Adequately fast, very strong and comfortable.
As stated by a well known cat broker in Ft Lauderdale:
If you hit a channel marker with a Catana there will be a lot of $$$$ damage to the vessel.
If you hit a channel marker with a Lagoon there may be a moment of slight temporary slowing, followed by a channel marker floating behind you.
Courses for horses, but a not very valuable comparison effort.
There-that should energize the thread!!
Don
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26-02-2021, 10:19
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Re: Multihull Dynamics Compares Catana 42 and Lagoon 440
I fully agree with Don above. Seems time, energy and $ not well spent, analyzing two dinosaurs.
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26-02-2021, 15:12
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Re: Multihull Dynamics Compares Catana 42 and Lagoon 440
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Originally Posted by OnePapillon
I fully agree with Don above. Seems time, energy and $ not well spent, analyzing two dinosaurs.
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That's a bit harsh. The https://www.catamaransite.com/ website is a used catamaran sales site and this is an article written about two different types of boats referring to the data sets displayed on another Multihull Dynamics, Inc. - Home website. The article does high light areas of interest, particularly to first time catamaran buyers. Of course being a used sales website they can not be too damning of any particular brand or model as they sell all of them (commission free it would seem - so maybe they get the revenue from advertising fees) Nb if you want to see data sets on the dynamics website you will need to join, it's free.
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03-03-2021, 04:56
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Re: Multihull Dynamics Compares Catana 42 and Lagoon 440
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Originally Posted by Simon.Sails
Couldn't find the link at first, those two sites could be a bit more user friendly to find content.
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Speaking for Catamaransite. I agree with you and we are working to make it more user friendly. Part of the problem is a massive influx of new content, like the Multihull Dynamics article this thread covers. It's a case of our content has outpaced our current format.
Rick
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03-03-2021, 04:57
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Re: Multihull Dynamics Compares Catana 42 and Lagoon 440
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Originally Posted by Chotu
Who is Richard Jordan? I haven’t been paying attention. Catamaransite.com was sold or changed ownership?
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No, same ownership. However, some new blood. Richard Jordan is my new partner.
Rick
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13-11-2021, 08:04
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Re: Multihull Dynamics Compares Catana 42 and Lagoon 440
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Originally Posted by CatamaranSite
No, same ownership. However, some new blood. Richard Jordan is my new partner.
Rick
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Hi,
Just to thank Rick, whom I accidentally bump into on the forum today, as I subscribe to the sales ads appearing on your site - more for dreaming than currently buying - and I find it well done and documented.
Thanks again
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14-11-2021, 13:34
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Re: Multihull Dynamics Compares Catana 42 and Lagoon 440
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Originally Posted by MultiCountryDon
Sort of like comparing Ferrari to Ford F-150.
Apples and coconuts.
Catana: Fast and adequately strong for most situations.
Lagoon: Adequately fast, very strong and comfortable.
As stated by a well known cat broker in Ft Lauderdale:
If you hit a channel marker with a Catana there will be a lot of $$$$ damage to the vessel.
If you hit a channel marker with a Lagoon there may be a moment of slight temporary slowing, followed by a channel marker floating behind you.
Courses for horses, but a not very valuable comparison effort.
There-that should energize the thread!!
Don
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Not sure if you have sailed either, the Catana 42 is actually not all that quick, but it is stronger construction methodology than the Lagoon. I would have to say:
Catana: Barely adequately Fast and adequately strong for most situations.
Lagoon: Adequately slow, adequately strong and comfortable in. flat water when under motor.
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