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Snowgoose35 · 31-01-2018, 04:28

I also just watched their first few videos yesterday - interesting health and safety attitude to using a circular saw

Having refitted two boats in the same sort of condition (not I must say to anything like the standard Atoll is achieving), one took 6 months (for an HT 26) and one took a year or so for a Snowgoose 35. Their Dean 365 to do nicely will be a big job - I hope they keep up the enthusiasm.

I've just bought a Quasar 50 to do a complete refurbishment and am allowing 9 months to a year of 6 days a week full time to do it properly. I'm sure I'll be asking lots of advice as I go from the resident expert

mikedefieslife · 31-01-2018, 08:35

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Originally Posted by Snowgoose35

I also just watched their first few videos yesterday - interesting health and safety attitude to using a circular saw

Having refitted two boats in the same sort of condition (not I must say to anything like the standard Atoll is achieving), one took 6 months (for an HT 26) and one took a year or so for a Snowgoose 35. Their Dean 365 to do nicely will be a big job - I hope they keep up the enthusiasm.

I've just bought a Quasar 50 to do a complete refurbishment and am allowing 9 months to a year of 6 days a week full time to do it properly. I'm sure I'll be asking lots of advice as I go from the resident expert

Congrats on the Quasar, that's going to be awesome.

**atoll** · 31-01-2018, 09:19

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Originally Posted by Snowgoose35

I also just watched their first few videos yesterday - interesting health and safety attitude to using a circular saw

Having refitted two boats in the same sort of condition (not I must say to anything like the standard Atoll is achieving), one took 6 months (for an HT 26) and one took a year or so for a Snowgoose 35. Their Dean 365 to do nicely will be a big job - I hope they keep up the enthusiasm.

I've just bought a Quasar 50 to do a complete refurbishment and am allowing 9 months to a year of 6 days a week full time to do it properly. I'm sure I'll be asking lots of advice as I go from the resident expert

congratulations on the new boat,it should be easier to work on than the snowgoose due to the large cockpit and saloon areas which are big enough to set up a proper workbench,if you need to cut up full sheets of plywood.

Snowgoose35 · 31-01-2018, 09:58

"which are big enough to set up a proper workbench,if you need to cut up full sheets of plywood."

I hope so, Atoll, its a big job on a big boat and will need a lot of full sheets of ply - it needs new head linings /wall finishes in every room, all new electrics, new furniture in every cabin, new heads top to bottom (and there are 3), new instruments, new galley, windows, hatches and on and on but...

has two recently serviced fully working yanmar 3GMs, good mast, rig, sails, furlers etc and a solid hull and deck and cost very little indeed

and I can stand up straight everywhere to work - 6'6" head heights in hulls and saloon - which makes such a big difference when its 8 hours a day every day.

Hopefully she'll transform from a rather overweight, dark teak over built old girl into a more modern style bright light oak, lighter weight cruiser but I don't expect to see the light of day for many months

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Congrats on the Quasar, that's going to be awesome.
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Thanks Carl, I'm certainly looking forward to it, though it will be 2019 before I get her out on the water.

**atoll** · 31-01-2018, 10:35

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Originally Posted by Snowgoose35

"which are big enough to set up a proper workbench,if you need to cut up full sheets of plywood."

I hope so, Atoll, its a big job on a big boat and will need a lot of full sheets of ply - it needs new head linings /wall finishes in every room, all new electrics, new furniture in every cabin, new heads top to bottom (and there are 3), new instruments, new galley, windows, hatches and on and on but...

has two recently serviced fully working yanmar 3GMs, good mast, rig, sails, furlers etc and a solid hull and deck and cost very little indeed

and I can stand up straight everywhere to work - 6'6" head heights in hulls and saloon - which makes such a big difference when its 8 hours a day every day.

Hopefully she'll transform from a rather overweight, dark teak over built old girl into a more modern style bright light oak, lighter weight cruiser but I don't expect to see the light of day for many months

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Congrats on the Quasar, that's going to be awesome.
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Thanks Carl, I'm certainly looking forward to it, though it will be 2019 before I get her out on the water.

i can really reccomend setting up a laminating table,possibly under the boat to make up either cored polyester laminated panels or gelcoated laminated sheets for headliners etc,works out cheaper than marine ply,and no finishing after as the sheets come out in a high gloss finish.
great for bathrooms etc
formica faced ply or faced shuttering board works great for a table.

similar technique to the kelsall cat layup system where they use honeycomb or pu foam sheets on a long laminating table to make the hulls.

**boatman61** · 31-01-2018, 10:49

Originally Posted by Snowgoose35
I also just watched their first few videos yesterday - interesting health and safety attitude to using a circular saw

Having refitted two boats in the same sort of condition (not I must say to anything like the standard Atoll is achieving), one took 6 months (for an HT 26) and one took a year or so for a Snowgoose 35. Their Dean 365 to do nicely will be a big job - I hope they keep up the enthusiasm.

I've just bought a Quasar 50 to do a complete refurbishment and am allowing 9 months to a year of 6 days a week full time to do it properly. I'm sure I'll be asking lots of advice as I go from the resident expert

Congratulations on the new boat Peter..

Can we look forward to a 'Modernising a Prout Quasar 50ft' thread in the future..

Buzzman · 31-01-2018, 13:51

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Originally Posted by boatman61

Congratulations on the new boat Peter..

Can we look forward to a 'Modernising a Prout Quasar 50ft' thread in the future..

+1 for the 'Modernising a Prout Quasar 50ft' thread!

While the Seth Effricans attitude to Elfin Safty might appear a tad lax by some standards, you have to take your hat off to two **young** people getting their boatbuilding chops on a big cat.

It will be interesting to watch their progress. I liked his idea of using an additional layer of foam and glass to stiffen the aft compartments in case he decides to go for twin power units down track. Being organised enough (and farsighted enough) to realise that *now* is the time to do the hull strengthening shows he has some parts of his head properly screwed on.

And, let's face it, Atoll has set the benchmark for "Prout Restorations". This thread should be retitled 'beat this'! lol

Snowgoose35 · 31-01-2018, 13:56

[QUOTE=Buzzman;2567458]+1 for the 'Modernising a Prout Quasar 50ft' thread!

Or the look how to make a Quasar look modern and better than it did before but nothing like as nice as Atolls Prout Elite thread

Buzzman · 31-01-2018, 14:00

Did you mean thread?

Snowgoose35 · 31-01-2018, 14:03

Oops, thanks

Buzzman · 31-01-2018, 14:15

LOL.

I mean, friendlyt competition is one thing, but seeing atoll as a "threat"....

He's much too nice a guy....

**atoll** · 31-01-2018, 16:49

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Originally Posted by Buzzman

LOL.

I mean, friendlyt competition is one thing, but seeing atoll as a "threat"....

He's much too nice a guy....

i like the idea of a quasar thread!

latest idea is to be finished in the next 18 months,as we potentially have a buyer for our other boat.
so we will need new a "New victim" on cruisers forum to post a restoration thread, when we sail off into the wide blue yonder........

about the only way the "lady africa" couple are going to get their boat going again inside of a year, is if they use cored materials ,then use techniques like the kelsall cats to stiffen up the cat and create a new modular no frills interiour that way with just a polyeurathane painted finish inside.

it will be expensive as pu foam and nida core is not cheap,neither is epoxy but unskilled labour in SA is cheap,it will be interesting to watch if they go down that route

**Pete7** · 31-01-2018, 17:17

I don't understand why they ripped a perfectly good boat apart like that?

Pete

**atoll** · 31-01-2018, 18:16

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Originally Posted by Pete7

I don't understand why they ripped a perfectly good boat apart like that?

Pete

they didn't like the galley! and the rest was rotten

however one of the best comments was,"you do realise that for every hour you spend ripping infastructure out it takes roughly 1-2 weeks of time to put the new infastructure back in

i hope they realise that all the box section furniture that was laminated to the hull,or sections filled with foam were designed to give the hulls longditudinal stiffness to stop the hulls flexing.

the average hull thickness is only about 8- 10~mm so they will have to pay considerable attention to detail to replace the structural integerity on the rebuild, vertically and longditudinally with new bulkheads , stringers and floors laminated to the hull ,otherwise there will be a risk of the hulls breaking up in any big wave action.

hopefully he is planning on the modular interiour in nidacor as he posted in this video
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