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07-07-2015, 19:59
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
Doesn't look so dirty. Nuthin a qwick brush and hose won't do.
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08-07-2015, 01:30
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#452
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
Looking good thus far.......
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08-07-2015, 03:03
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#453
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
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Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey
Doesn't look so dirty. Nuthin a qwick brush and hose won't do.
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I finished rebedding and sealing all the windows on the weekend,so might have to get the pressure washer out to check for leaks,unfortunately all my cheap labour is either on holiday, or away working in spain.
been finishing up in the aft cabins,so mainly painting,varnishing and panelling,so not much to photograph till its finished
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08-07-2015, 06:39
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#454
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
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Originally Posted by atoll
been finishing up in the aft cabins,so mainly painting,varnishing and panelling,so not much to photograph till its finished 
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I'm still sincerely impressed how quickly you built out that interior. The cabinetry seemed to grow out of air. We all will look forward to that next photo. Nice work Atoll.
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08-07-2015, 06:46
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
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Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey
I'm still sincerely impressed how quickly you built out that interior. The cabinetry seemed to grow out of air. We all will look forward to that next photo. Nice work Atoll.

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08-07-2015, 07:14
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
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08-07-2015, 19:00
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
Yeah, atoll, time for a change of avatar ID - maybe IKEA, or what about Speed E Gonzales..??
You do realise of course that it's just the green-eyed monster talking? With my back only now beginning to recover from the slipped disk episode this time last year, and the funds only gathering momentum glacially, I'm left watching the spiders infiltrate and colonise the unfinished hulls of my boat.
Fascinating creatures. Although I had to draw the line when my resident Red Back colony sent emissaries to investigate its potential for further colonisation. Just don't fancy the way the females treat the males of that species.
I mean, how would you like to have your head ripped off straight after your one and only sexual experience? Doesn't seem quite fair to this little black duck!
But they are now very afraid - of the man with the can o' Mortein.......
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09-07-2015, 12:38
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
for the IKEA monkeys 
some photos.
photos are as follows.
quadruple laminate stiffening for the chainplates in the outboard lockers.
outboard lockers.
battening on inboard side.
insulation.
panelling on inboard side
the big picture.....
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09-07-2015, 13:08
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#459
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
Holy gaboons! All that insulation. Are you planning on going ice fishing?
This thing is moving fast!
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09-07-2015, 13:44
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
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Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey
Holy gaboons! All that insulation. Are you planning on going ice fishing?
This thing is moving fast!
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insulation works in numerous ways.
keeps the cold out,keeps the heat in ,in a cold climate.
or keeps the heat out and the boat cool in a hot climate.
stops condensation as well here in the cold ,also makes the boat unsinkable
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09-07-2015, 14:24
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
Nice.
Unsinkable is guuuuud me thinks
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09-07-2015, 14:46
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
Good work Atoll,you certainly are moving apace,the quality of workmanship is right up there.
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09-07-2015, 18:29
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
+1 - Looking good, mate!
Tell me, it appears that where you've installed the locker you didn't insulate first, so can I assume you will insulate the back of the cupboard then?
I'm guessing the reason for that is the added stiffness of having the cupboard sides moulded/glassed into the hull is stronger/stiffer, than attaching the locker just to the inside skin of the insulation and battens?
Also, what grade of glass did you use to strengthen the sides for the chainplates. You said four layers, of what thickness?
[I'm taking notes.....]
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09-07-2015, 19:41
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#464
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
...and makes things quieter insode from rouwdy monkeys in their rowboaties.
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10-07-2015, 02:19
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#465
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
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Originally Posted by Buzzman
+1 - Looking good, mate!
Tell me, it appears that where you've installed the locker you didn't insulate first, so can I assume you will insulate the back of the cupboard then?
I'm guessing the reason for that is the added stiffness of having the cupboard sides moulded/glassed into the hull is stronger/stiffer, than attaching the locker just to the inside skin of the insulation and battens?
Also, what grade of glass did you use to strengthen the sides for the chainplates. You said four layers, of what thickness?
[I'm taking notes.....] 
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the lockers are indeed to anchor the chainplate and add strength to that part of the hull hence having all the shelves and up rights bulkheads glassed directly to the hull.
the chainplates in the location that they are now is a change made by prout in the later elite models that went from using a single spreader mast, to a double spreader mast with diamonds,so as to allow greater tension on the fore stay and inner forestay.
in earlier models,the lowers went to the coach roof,and uppers to the back stays but this created problems with forestay tension due to hull flex.
the first two layers are 450gsm csm and 720gsm triaxial cloth,giving about 5mm thickness and extend beyond the shelf,back and below.
then 3 more layers of 450 csm staggered to form a pad where the backing plate will be located,giving a further 4.5 mm thickness.
this is on top of the hull itself that is about 10mm,so should have a thickness of about 20mm in the area below the hull- deck joint.
insulation as you see in the photo which is a glass/polyfoam sandwich will be cut to size and glued to the hull,then sealed with sika to provide a nice smooth surface in the backs of the cupboards.
the top shelf panel will just be sealed with sika making it fairly easy to remove for chainplate inspection.
photo of the more modern rig on the prout and exterior chain plate location.
also the gelcoated laminate insulated panels that I made up in the workshop.
and the chainplate backing laminate
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