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22-05-2015, 02:38
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
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Originally Posted by atoll
I would be surprised if I spent 1/10th of that for the finished article! 
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Add your hours up at 50Sterling an hour.
It still wont be 500K........
But its a lot of man hours.
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22-05-2015, 02:48
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#392
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Senior Cruiser

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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
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Originally Posted by weavis
Add your hours up at 50Sterling an hour.
It still wont be 500K........
But its a lot of man hours.
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time that could otherwise be spent productively in the pub
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22-05-2015, 03:04
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#393
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
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Originally Posted by atoll
time that could otherwise be spent productively in the pub 
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As long as you own the pub its productive......
Man this is going to be one sweet ride when its done.
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10% of conflicts are due to different opinions. 90% by the tone of voice.
Raise your words, not your voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder.
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22-05-2015, 07:27
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#394
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
A pub without leaky windowz
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22-05-2015, 07:38
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
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Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey
A pub without leaky windowz
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I grew up in the hotel/restaurant industry. Pubs are hard work and you need tolerance beyond belief where alcohol is concerned.
Restoring boats has a final reward.
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- Never test how deep the water is with both feet -
10% of conflicts are due to different opinions. 90% by the tone of voice.
Raise your words, not your voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder.
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22-05-2015, 08:17
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#396
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
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Originally Posted by weavis
Restoring boats has a final reward.

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*Ptaw *spit. That's a pure suck up answer, Weavy.
A nine-dart finish after two pints of amber at Tinners Arms is a final reward.
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22-05-2015, 09:28
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#397
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
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Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey
*Ptaw *spit. That's a pure suck up answer, Weavy.
A nine-dart finish after two pints of amber at Tinners Arms is a final reward.

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Atoll will remember that as he is opening his bottle of beer from the cockpit whist gazing out on a tropical vista..........
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10% of conflicts are due to different opinions. 90% by the tone of voice.
Raise your words, not your voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder.
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22-05-2015, 09:57
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#398
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
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Originally Posted by weavis
Atoll will remember that as he is opening his bottle of beer from the cockpit whist gazing out on a tropical vista..........
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Aey, but lettuce see the ol' Celt try to throw a straight dart
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22-05-2015, 11:14
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#399
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
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Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey
Aey, but lettuce see the ol' Celt try to throw a straight dart 
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harpooning crayfish ...derekly..me hansome, more likely
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28-05-2015, 00:18
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
bilge pumps pipework,water tanks plumbing and cabin sole's glued down in both aft cabins.
vents ,deck fillers and bilge outfall all plumbed in in the cockpit lockers and deck.
glad that is done!
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28-05-2015, 01:13
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
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Originally Posted by atoll
bilge pumps pipework,water tanks plumbing and cabin sole's glued down in both aft cabins.
vents ,deck fillers and bilge outfall all plumbed in in the cockpit lockers and deck.
glad that is done!
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So the tanks are now integral and cannot be moved or got into except with a cutter? Just askin'.....
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10% of conflicts are due to different opinions. 90% by the tone of voice.
Raise your words, not your voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder.
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28-05-2015, 01:20
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#402
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
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Originally Posted by weavis
So the tanks are now integral and cannot be moved or got into except with a cutter? Just askin'.....
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integral,with water tight inspection hatches for cleaning.
the idea,not mine but prouts is that they provide a "double bottom" if the hull is holed in the keel area
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28-05-2015, 01:25
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
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Originally Posted by atoll
integral,with water tight inspection hatches for cleaning.
the idea,not mine but prouts is that they provide a "double bottom" if the hull is holed in the keel area
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I come from the school of everything is removable except for structure. I had leaned towards the South African school of thought of making the furniture part of the structure so as to eliminate flexing and thus creaking, but had never thought of glassing in water tanks. The reason for it is interesting.
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- Never test how deep the water is with both feet -
10% of conflicts are due to different opinions. 90% by the tone of voice.
Raise your words, not your voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder.
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28-05-2015, 01:30
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#404
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
Makes sense as strengthening also. This is one reason why Farrier, for one, has integrated furniture in his designs.
Found framing wasn't needed with foam glass, only bulkheads at major load points.
Stitch and glue does the same thing with ply boats, although I'd still want stringers and frames on a bigger boat, like this one.
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28-05-2015, 01:31
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#405
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Re: Modernizing a Prout Elite 37ft
Quote:
Originally Posted by weavis
I come from the school of everything is removable except for structure. I had leaned towards the South African school of thought of making the furniture part of the structure so as to eliminate flexing and thus creaking, but had never thought of glassing in water tanks. The reason for it is interesting.
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not uncommon on many fiberglass boats to have integral keel tanks for diesel and water
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