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05-02-2012, 14:34
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#31
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Location: Melbourne Australia
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Re: Melbourne International Boat Show - Very disappointing from a multihull viewpoint
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Originally Posted by dirkdig
The attitude is rampant in Vic because these people have no idea.
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Originally Posted by dirkdig
I have heard it all from so called experts about why cats are no good in Vic.
Wrong weather?
Will tip over in the bay, even though its not deep enough?
Cats make you seasick?
Cats can not come social racing because we dont know how to work out your handicap,so no wed night sailing for you.
Dont be put off though as more and more cats are arriving in Vic and once people come aboard they love them,until then they have no clue.
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I must agree, a few years ago when researching cats, I recall being advised that cruising cat are only any value in Queensland, and would never be any good on Port Phillip bay because of the short chop. I am happy to report I have found no proplems at all.
Regards Peter
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05-02-2012, 14:54
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#32
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Melbourne Australia
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Re: Melbourne International Boat Show - Very disappointing from a multihull viewpoint
I have been on a couple of Big Cats on Westernport Bay and found them to be the Bee's knees,
These same big Cats also race up and down the Tasman, Between Melbourne and The Whitsundays in Qld,
Which thoroughly convinced me that a big Cat was the way for me to go,
I have fished and skied on Port Phillip Bay on small fishing and ski boats, A big Cat would have been excellent,
Not skiing behind a sailing cat, But you get what I mean, Hahahahaha
They have plenty of shark cats here, They are an excepted boat, Motor Cat,
But if you whack a set of sails on a Cat, For some reason it then becomes a dangerous vessel,
Its just ignorance, Or not Prepared to take their heads out of their clacker and look at the advantages a Big Cat can give them,
Cheers,
Brian.
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05-02-2012, 15:08
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#33
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Re: Melbourne International Boat Show - Very disappointing from a multihull viewpoint
Many of those same Vic's will end up in Qld for the climate. My mother did 65 years ago.
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05-02-2012, 19:19
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#34
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Geelong,Australia
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The GM should know which was the fastest boat at Geelong, he may have had a close up view at it!
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05-02-2012, 19:24
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One day when i was doing some work on the cat at the dock in Vic a old bugger kept going at me about why cats are no good with every reason he could muster.
Then he tells me he is a purist, i ask him what boat he has and surprise he does not even have a boat.
From there i tell him to go away then the wife says what does he mean by purist?
My take = not in budget! Two hulls are dearer than one.
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05-02-2012, 22:04
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#36
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Location: Melbourne Australia
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Re: Melbourne International Boat Show - Very disappointing from a multihull viewpoint
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Originally Posted by dirkdig
My take = not in budget! Two hulls are dearer than one.
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Ok ill bite cat are no good for the bay at all, as I dont have the budget due to 3 girls at school.
But if you would like to prove me wrong Id love to do a passage to QLD I would be willing to be proved wrong
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May there always be water under your boat,
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05-02-2012, 22:10
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Re: Melbourne International Boat Show - Very disappointing from a multihull viewpoint
Actually I was driving along recently on Beach Road Melbourne and we stopped in a carpark near Sandringham to watch a cat cruise past. It was a Gemini and it was bobbing up and down to the point where my wife said that she would never buy a boat like "that one." I had no answer as it seemed to be bobbing away more than it should have. I suspect it wasn't developing enough power from the headsail which may have been causing it. It was windy but I wouldn't have said it was overly rough. I had to add 5 ft to my minimum purchase length after that episode.
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05-02-2012, 22:37
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#38
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Re: Melbourne International Boat Show - Very disappointing from a multihull viewpoint
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Originally Posted by ausaviator
Actually I was driving along recently on Beach Road Melbourne and we stopped in a carpark near Sandringham to watch a cat cruise past. It was a Gemini and it was bobbing up and down to the point where my wife said that she would never buy a boat like "that one." I had no answer as it seemed to be bobbing away more than it should have. I suspect it wasn't developing enough power from the headsail which may have been causing it. It was windy but I wouldn't have said it was overly rough. I had to add 5 ft to my minimum purchase length after that episode.
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Are you sure it was a Gemini and not a Seawind, as there is only about 3 in Australia, One in Adelaide and the other is in Sydney I think, Mines in Port Stephens on the Hard,
They do look very similar, There is another cat that looks like a Gemini as well.
Not sure what that one is tho,
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05-02-2012, 23:06
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#39
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Re: Melbourne International Boat Show - Very disappointing from a multihull viewpoint
He is just stirring you Mr B.
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05-02-2012, 23:16
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#40
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Re: Melbourne International Boat Show - Very disappointing from a multihull viewpoint
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Originally Posted by downunder
He is just stirring you Mr B.
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Shame, I was hoping there was another one around,
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06-02-2012, 00:10
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#41
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Re: Melbourne International Boat Show - Very disappointing from a multihull viewpoint
I'm sorry I should have prefaced that telling Mr B not to read that as I'm hoping for a ride when you get yours back! Certainly don't think it was the fault of the design, it was rough and there were literally no other boats out.
Certainly was a Gemini, quite a distinguished type really. I've never seen it again in Melbourne so I do suspect it was visiting, looked as good as brand new at the time. I've pretty much located all cats in Melbourne with the exception of PeterP's stomping ground and Geelong.
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06-02-2012, 01:19
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#42
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Location: Geelong,Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sctpc
Ok ill bite cat are no good for the bay at all, as I dont have the budget due to 3 girls at school.
But if you would like to prove me wrong Id love to do a passage to QLD I would be willing to be proved wrong
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The boat is sitting in Qld at the moment, welcome to come try it out anytime, there is usually 2 spare bedrooms to choose from, do you prefer queen size beds or just a double?
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06-02-2012, 03:59
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#43
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Registered User
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Location: Melbourne Australia
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Re: Melbourne International Boat Show - Very disappointing from a multihull viewpoint
This is my Baby,
On both sides under the cockpit. It has Gemini 105 MC written on it.
So you cant mistake it for some thing else, They all have the Gemini label on them.
Now, this is what you call a Catamaran, Eat your hearts out peoples, Hahaahahhahaha
Some thing for you all to drool over.
Cheers,
Brian,
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06-02-2012, 04:25
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#44
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 911
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Re: Melbourne International Boat Show - Very disappointing from a multihull viewpoint
They do look good that's for sure. There was one in a window (advertisement) for sale a while back in Melbourne but I'm buggered if I can remember where. It was brand new or a year old from memory. It may have been Sandringham or Absolutely definitely have seen one zooming about near Sandringham.
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