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28-09-2016, 20:56
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Norfolk, Va
Boat: 83 Tanzer 27
Posts: 42
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Re: Maritime kindness of the first order.
Unfortunately the same decline in basic human decency is everywhere. Over the road trucking used to be, If you broke down, before you could get out of the truck, 2 trucks had stopped and 5 more were on the CB radio offering help. 15 years ago when I came off the road other drivers don't even move over to the inside lane on an empty highway. Sad to see it, but it is everywhere.
Ken
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28-09-2016, 21:26
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#17
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 604
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Re: Maritime kindness of the first order.
Quote:
Originally Posted by weavis
The moral from this episode is that unfortunately, in this day and age, a person cannot really trust the experts.
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That's because an "experts" nowadays are these who call themselves to be "experts", not because they are experts for real. To find real expert today, professional in any trade, any profession is matter of extreme luck.
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28-09-2016, 23:07
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#18
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Fremantle
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Re: Maritime kindness of the first order.
Expert.
Where ex is the unknown factor and spert is a drip under pressure.
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28-09-2016, 23:50
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#19
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: On the boat in Ecuador.
Boat: Westerly Sealord
Posts: 7,501
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Re: Maritime kindness of the first order.
Re the RAS operation itself it isn't a good move to have the ship and your yacht stopped.
Far better to have the ship steaming 'dead slow' and your boat making best speed ( say about 6 knots) while you motor about 15 feet or so off her lee side.
Set up an endless whip with a couple heaving lines and you can transfer 15 x 20 litre 'bidones' in 15 minutes with one steering, one stowing below, and one handling the whip.
Don't bother asking how I know this....
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29-09-2016, 00:12
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#20
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: On the boat in Ecuador.
Boat: Westerly Sealord
Posts: 7,501
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Re: Maritime kindness of the first order.
Meanwhile... good luck finding this standard of seamanship out there these days....
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29-09-2016, 20:12
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Moderator
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: aboard, cruising in Australia
Boat: Sayer 46' Solent rig sloop
Posts: 24,723
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Re: Maritime kindness of the first order.
Quote:
Originally Posted by El Pinguino
Meanwhile... good luck finding this standard of seamanship out there these days....
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Pretty neat the ship was equipped with such a good crane, too. Lucky folks!
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Who scorns the calm has forgotten the storm.
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29-09-2016, 20:28
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Long Range Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
Posts: 12,823
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Re: Maritime kindness of the first order.
Quote:
Originally Posted by El Pinguino
Meanwhile... good luck finding this standard of seamanship out there these days....
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The yachts ensign is upsidedown to show its in distress...
Ahh, the good old days.
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30-09-2016, 00:07
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: On the boat in Ecuador.
Boat: Westerly Sealord
Posts: 7,501
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Re: Maritime kindness of the first order.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ann T. Cate
Pretty neat the ship was equipped with such a good crane, too. Lucky folks! 
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Standard issue hose handling derrick on a tanker...
Biscay, 1979.....
The trousers are a nice touch...
Mas aqui... hope it is legible
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30-09-2016, 00:40
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Moderator
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: aboard, cruising in Australia
Boat: Sayer 46' Solent rig sloop
Posts: 24,723
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Re: Maritime kindness of the first order.
Por favor, es tan pequeno. No es posible leerlo. Posiblemente tu puedes hacerlo mas grande?
Also, please forgive lack of proper punctuation, no can do.
Ann
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30-09-2016, 03:34
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Seaman, Delivery skipper


Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
Posts: 28,709
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Re: Maritime kindness of the first order.
Quote:
Originally Posted by barnakiel
Pretty long list of problems on this boat. Not an example of how to prep or what to sail. Odd given apparently a newish and well maintained boat.
They were lucky it was a small line. Big ships do not slow down nor stop, unless there is an actual emergency.
b.
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Sadly dangerous incompetence as displayed by the 'riggers' is an increasing problem these days.. especially when the 'Experts' are aware your heading away on a long trip.. unlike local boats your unlikely to turn back and give them a bad time.
As for the rest.. **** Happens.
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It was a dark and stormy night and the captain of the ship said.. "Hey Jim, spin us a yarn." and the yarn began like this.. "It was a dark and stormy night.."
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30-09-2016, 06:34
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#26
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Cat in Chile, trawler in Ventura
Boat: 46' custom cat "Rum Doxy", Roughwater 41"Abreojos"
Posts: 1,968
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Re: Maritime kindness of the first order.
When we were midway on passage from Japan to Alaska, our satphone service provider cut us off without warning (long story, shades of "Rebel Heart"). We had been using the satphone to update our blog daily so that the folks back home would not worry. My last blog had mentioned a cyclone forming off the Philippines that we were keeping an eye on and we worried that our families were fearing the worst (they were). 3 days later we spotted a ship on AIS and hailed them on VHF. We asked that they relay an email for us, which they happily did. They seemed genuinely disappointed that they could not do more for us.
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30-09-2016, 11:39
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#27
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: On the boat in Ecuador.
Boat: Westerly Sealord
Posts: 7,501
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Re: Maritime kindness of the first order.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ann T. Cate
Por favor, es tan pequeno. No es posible leerlo. Posiblemente tu puedes hacerlo mas grande?
Also, please forgive lack of proper punctuation, no can do.
Ann
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That's about as good as it gets....... this is the guts of it.
'Whilst on voyage from Lisbon to Milford to Milford Haven ..... our 32,000 ton tanker 'London Confidence' answered a Mayday distress call on 5th October and picked up the British yacht 'Daval' with two survivors, which was disabled and drifting in the Bay of Biscay whilst on a voyage from Swansea to Gibraltar.
The yacht was hoisted clear of the water and secured to the hull and the two survivors, Mr David Evans aged 39, and Mr Alan Creaks, aged 44, both of Birmingham, were taken on board and the vessel proceeded on voyage to Milford Haven'
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30-09-2016, 12:28
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#28
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 280
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Re: Maritime kindness of the first order.
Quote:
Originally Posted by barnakiel
Pretty long list of problems on this boat. Not an example of how to prep or what to sail. Odd given apparently a newish and well maintained boat.
They were lucky it was a small line. Big ships do not slow down nor stop, unless there is an actual emergency.
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Did you happen to watch the episode? The riggers actually made an error that Brent discovered in mid crossing, forcing them to motor
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