Lagoon 570 Reviews Owners Version

[44'cruisingcat]

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Originally Posted by jzk

We are considering a 570, and I found your post quite informative.

Why not raise the main under autopliot? I have a Beneteau 47.7 that I singlehand regularly. And even when I have people on board, I mostly still single hand it. I just point the boat into the wind, slightly off the wind, put the autopilot on going just a few knots. Then I have all day to raise the main by myself, and I don't even have an electric winch (wish I did though). Lowering the main is the same deal. Feather up in gear, set the pilot and then I slowly lower the main and flake it (Dutchman).

I do the same.

This thread is a few years old though. I think Ken already moved on to a larger Oyster.

[Kenomac]

Yes he did. Thanks again for all the replies, but my wife and I followed Boatman’s advice and purchased a 2009 Oyster 62 last year.

[jzk]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

Yes he did. Thanks again for all the replies, but my wife and I followed Boatman’s advice and purchased a 2009 Oyster 62 last year.

Thanks. What is the draft of your Oyster? There is a CNB 64 I like, but I fear the draft will be an issue and the catamaran is more conducive to the lifestyle. The CNB would be conducive to some pretty awesome sailing though.

There is a 570 available for under $400k.

[Kenomac]

Originally Posted by jzk

Thanks. What is the draft of your Oyster? There is a CNB 64 I like, but I fear the draft will be an issue and the catamaran is more conducive to the lifestyle. The CNB would be conducive to some pretty awesome sailing though.

There is a 570 available for under $400k.

Our Oyster 53 has a 7ft 3 inch draft and our Oyster 62 has an 8ft 11inch draft.

[rapiti]

Lagoon 47 & 57 of this generation are sailboats. The largest berth in the 57 is queen size. Today you can buy a 39 foot car with king. What does that tell us?
In our case, we shopped 20 year old boats for their sail ability. Today if one wants a cat that sails half decently, you have Outremer and...what? Balance? Kinetic? Gunboat?
We bought an old Catana 471 and spent more than our purchase price refitting. She sails well, is easily handled by the two of us, and is comfortable. We have had 17 seated for dinner. I am a big fan of the 90s Lagoon 47/470/57/570. Also consider Switch 51 (similar to 47 with daggerboards.) L450 is a nice boat. They sold 900+! But the very well sailed 450 we cruised with last year was woefully slow compared to the Catanas that made up the rest of our group. An early L47 would have stayed closer.
Good luck!

Originally Posted by ranchero76

I'm watching the market for some time, so here's my vision.
Lagoon 570 is older model, so we are talking about used cats here, right? Lagoon 570 for $400-450K is A LOT of boat for the price. Simply unbeatable deal in terms size/quality.
I mean - that's simply unbelievable that some sellers asking more money for vintage boats, 1995-1998-2000... $700000 for boat 20 years old? Is it a joke? Look outside the window- it's 2016 out there!
Let's put it straight. ANY boat over 5 years old will need at least SOME work here and there. But not only that. Even 5 years old boat has outdated electronics, engines with higher hours etc.etc. (unless it's been updated by previous owner, but it's very unlikely that someone will spend $$ before putting boat on the market).
So the point is - unless you can't do ANYTHING yourself, it's worth buying cheap boat in reasonably good shape , and then service it, repair as necessary and upgrade it JUST THE WAY YOU NEED (and that's always unique, right?). And that's where Lagoon shines at its best. These boats are often ex-charter, not customized. So they don't carry any emotional attachments, which (in eyes of sellers) seem to be EASILY half of the boat value. Many of these boats with emotional attachments are sitting on the market 5-7 years and even more.
I personally like Lagoon 570, but even more - newer 560, with flybridge. Price on 2011-2012 L560 is already under $1M, there should be quite few ex-chapter boats on the market soon. They are not perfect boats, but there's no perfect boat anyway.

[mcarthur]

I did a little study on long range powercats which may help. Not all are listed, but most production ones that you'll find secondhand are.

[Hiva Oa]

What is the displacement for the lagoon 570?

[smj]

Originally Posted by Hiva Oa

What is the displacement for the lagoon 570?

31,360 lbs

[fabgo]

Originally Posted by smj

31,360 lbs

Quite incredible, considering the displacement of the newer Lagoon 39 is 25,735
lbs.

[Hiva Oa]

Just looking for the answer as to why the Lagoon 570 weighs half of the Lagoon 56.

The 56 is a decade newer as well.

[mglonnro]

Originally Posted by Hiva Oa

Just looking for the answer as to why the Lagoon 570 weighs half of the Lagoon 56.

The 56 is a decade newer as well.

This is not the answer, but a part of it!

[Training Wheels]

I’ll take the one on the bottom, thank you!

[Hiva Oa]

I did some further digging as well.

The 570s used thin skin balsa core sandwich construction.

It appears from everything I have found that newer ones are just solid glass. That would add a significant amount of weight to obtain the same stiffness.

[smj]

The newer Lagoons are also balsa cored but maybe solid below waterkine

[toolbar]

While the Lagoon 570 is probably much lighter than their newer models, remember that the displacement figures before the EU standardization were quite optimistic, not to say misleading. I bet they are at least 20 ton.

Paul