??? Never! I only suffered some serious rum
punch desease. As for smiles: our kids
still smile when they see a turquoise bimini
. Our boat came in this faded Lagoon color of the 90s. A color that looked worn and ugly but at least we recognised our boat instantly in any crowded anchorage
We bought a 1999 Lagoon 410 back in 2010 in the Med and sold
in 2012 after a sabatical cruise
to the Caribbean
. I think it was an excellent choice for this.
Here are the little issues we experienced. Don't know how much of this is really 410 specific but maybe it helps.
the 410 are solid glass below the waterline but have a balsa core
above the waterline. No problem if it stays dry, but can rot
if moisture creeps in. That would be an expensive repair
. So all deck gear
needs to be firmly attached and properly sealed. All these pad eyes, bolts, blocks, stanchions, posts, etc. Everything!
of our buyers found inconsistent but slightly high moisture readings in the cockpit
seat and sole- possibly indicating a small leak into the core
from a bad seal around the helm
seat or bimini
. That's the main point I disliked about the Lagoon build philosophy. I love the foam core we have now in the Mahe.
We had few other small leaks
The drain outlets just in front of the sliding doors were not sealed properly so some rain water found its way between the layers of the cockpit
We had factory installed 4 little padeyes on the inner hull
side just above the waterline to attach jacklines
after flipping over. The aft ones were leaking badly in a seaway - hard to find as it's under the sound insulation
foam of the engine
Another leak we had was the transom steps (these are one piece glued into place) leaking rainwater into a sealed compartment accessible only through an access panel in the wall above the aft cabin
beds. Also the transom shower
can leak into it. The compartment drains through a hose into the main bilge
We fixed plenty of small leaks
but never managed to get a fully dry bilge
on that boat. For example the hot water boiler has a pressure relief valve which spills into the engine
bilge every time the water is heated and expands.
Overall not a big issue if you have the optional automatic bilge pumps. But if there are any high water marks visible check the wooden bulkheads.
We had plenty of little wiring
issues, mostly corrosion
and badly crimpled connectors. Literally everywhere from the speed sensor
below to the masthead light and everything in between. Not hard to fix but annoying, especially if things become unreliable. Lagoons (just like FPs) don't use tinned wire so can have some corrosion
. So at least check the backside of the main switch panel (there is an access panel in the salon
, right below the navigation
desk). The navigation
panel can be flipped forward to check it's backside.
The main batt switches are in the small locker in front of the beds in the port aft cabins. To starboard there may be an engine coupling switch.
If the windlass
is still the one that we had on ours (Leroy Somer) you will not be able to get spares. If its dead or wears out its time for a new one from another brand.
Our hot water plumbing
was brittle and over time we had several leaks so finally replaced it.
Check the vertical front windows for dislocation against the frame and bad outside sealing.
Check the escape hatch
The diesel tanks
are under the aft cabin
floor, check that the sensor
on top is undamaged (if the tank is really full it can rub against the floorboard).
Its worth to look at the end of the steering cables
where they attach to the wheel gear
. Ours were misaligned causing unnecessary wear. You would need to remove another access panel in the port aft cabin, though.
Model 2001 means the rubber gaskets between the hull
and the saildrive
should have been replaced already back in 2008 and are due for replacement in 2015. More likely they have not been replaced at all and are way overdue. Cost around 2k for both if done by a pro, maybe half if you do it yourself.
Overall its a really nice boat. There were two design issues for me. The square hull extension below the bridgedeck makes the aft cabins very loud during passages as waves constantly slap against it. And there is this round settee in the salon
. How does one stretch out to read a book? Or sleep during the watch??
We decided not to sail her back across the atlantic (not a nice trip for a shorthanded family
with pre-school kids) plus we had a good offer on the table so we sold
after our trip. Otherwise we would probably still own her. Nothing to regret with the choice.
The 410 doesn't carry lots of sail area but if you keep her light she may even perform well. Ours was overloaded and pretty slow (atlantic crossing at 5.2kn average with standard sails). The reason as I see: The PO had too much money
, so he had the biggest genset and watermaker
intalled that would fit, same for dive compressor
, A/C units, etc. Everything at least one size too big and heavy for the boat and 5 times too expensive for my taste. I could have saved literally a ton on these items.
All the best for the survey. I would take a set of screwdrivers with me for the numerous access panels
, a torch and of course a camera
. I use my phone
as it has a good light and can make videos of areas otherwise inaccessible.
If this particular boat turns out to be a bad apple: There is a 2004 owners version on apolloduck for 179k Euro, located in cyprus
(one advert by the owner, another by a broker). Has been on the market for maybe 2 years now, and only recently been reduced. If I were in the market for a 410 that's one I would love to look at.