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Old 25-11-2020, 14:58   #1
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Jules Verne Trophy

Intriguing record attempts just started, two boats have set off at a similar time, Sodebo and Gitana, both 30 metre foiling Tris. Current record is just short of 41 days. Always interesting, but really intriguing to see if they end up racing each other.
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There is a live tracker available here. Current speeds are around 33 knots for both boats
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Of course they are racing each other. Two boats making the same passage at the same time are always racing each other. And if the boats are perhaps the two fastest ocean going yachts of all time, crewed by testosterone driven expert sailors, well, how could they not be racing?

And a fantastic adventure for them, and for us observers.

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Gitana/Edmond de Rothschild hit the start line in 18 knots of wind.. and immediately hit 40 knots of boat speed!

Insane (but I love it).
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Of course they are racing each other. Two boats making the same passage at the same time are always racing each other. And if the boats are perhaps the two fastest ocean going yachts of all time, crewed by testosterone driven expert sailors, well, how could they not be racing?

And a fantastic adventure for them, and for us observers.

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Hi Jim, what they shouldn't do is race each other, they should race the clock, and every decision should be based, not on being in front of the other boat, but rather being in front of the current record,
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Hi Jim, what they shouldn't do is race each other, they should race the clock, and every decision should be based, not on being in front of the other boat, but rather being in front of the current record,
True, of course, but I bet that whoever is "in front" will be looking back over his shoulder to see if the other guy is gaining on him.

I wish them both bon chance.

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Hi Jim, what they shouldn't do is race each other, they should race the clock, and every decision should be based, not on being in front of the other boat, but rather being in front of the current record,
I think it is a natural human tendency to go faster when you are racing someone else rather than the clock.

When I go for a run at the high school track my pace is always faster if there are other runners at the time even though I am not technically racing them, it just happens subconsciously.
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Gitana in front by about 20 miles, or 40 minutes, both in front of previous record
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I think it is a natural human tendency to go faster when you are racing someone else rather than the clock.

+1 exactly my thought as I was reading thru the posts.
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There is a live tracker available here. Current speeds are around 33 knots for both boats
Thanks for the tracker! Going to be an awesome JV..

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Some good video from Gitana

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^^^^^

Interesting that one of them was talking about the downside of sailing in sight of the other boat... sailing to beat them rather than sailing to their own plan, as it were.

A telling comment from a top pro... even they are human!

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Yep. Always better to sail to your conditions and not watch and react to the competition all the time.

Here's a video from Sedebo - Only in French unfortunately. Serving up a birthday cake at 35+ knots.




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Interesting that one of them was talking about the downside of sailing in sight of the other boat... sailing to beat them rather than sailing to their own plan, as it were.

A telling comment from a top pro... even they are human!

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the best movies ever by 100,000 miles are videos of these tris sailing. next in the line - spaghetti western.
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Gitana is returning to Lorient. Hit something and damaged a rudder and foil but also they felt the weather wasn't perfect for an attempt. They will go again later in the winter.

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