Isara Catamarans

[deckofficer]

@ClearHorizons,

Tell us more. What was the propulsion, and other systems?

[beiland]

Originally Posted by deckofficer

I have been doing a lot of research, even devoted a section of my forum for the collection of experiences and links. Integration of systems

I have designed and built electric vehicles and firmly feel the hybrid diesel-electric propulsion system complimented by a stout 48 volt propulsion/house bank of batteries is the way of the future. The BBQ on the railing will be a common, insulated, 1500 watt unit, and yes, induction cook tops. They bring water to boil faster than calrod or gas, and are very controllable. You ever notice the cooking segments on TV, they all use the induction type hot plate. So easy to clean up as the cooking surface doesn't get hot, the only drawback is your glass/pyrex cookware won't work. Plus, energy efficient. With a large capacity 48 volt battery bank you can do all your electric galley work without running a gen set, and since it is 48 volts, the amperage draw on the DC side of the inverter is 1/4 of what it would be at 12 volts. If solar isn't enough for daily needs, that is where the light and efficient DC diesel charging gen-set earns it keep, being able to be fully loaded during run times, pumping 52 volts at 350 amps into the propulsion/house battery bank. No need for a partial loaded, heavy AC gen-set since with an inverter that would be redundant.

I looked up 'induction cooking here,
Induction cooking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

...and I can see some positives for it, BUT I still can't imagine a chef having control over that flame of heat they are use to. I don't know of any good cook that advocates electric cooktops??

To create that much magnetic feild to make induction cooking is a LOT of AC current at low voltage. I'm not sure that most normal inverters will supply that

[beiland]

Had a look at the bows on this vessel. Don't have a photo handy at the moment, but suffice it to say this vessel needs sharper bows. As is it will plow up water to run up the vertical line of the bow, and subseqently be blown back over the crew.

[gwmort]

I saw it at the spring show in Annapolis and I didn't care for it.

The steps up to the flybridge were really exposed and positioned oddly that would give me pause going up and down in a seaway. The salon was gorgeous but I thought the companionways in the hulls were a bit cramped for a vessel of this size.

[bryguy67]

This cat is like cocaine...the first photos are free. I can't get enough. But $1.4M U.S.? Over my head. We are considering a Lagoon 450 but Isara is coming out with a 45 footer. They are talking mid $800's for that one. We could buy a Prout 50 for that price which is an amazing boat. In fact there's a barely used P50 on the market right now with a motivated seller but it's a 4/4 layout; we want an owners version cat. We're going to Annapolis to sniff the white powder and step foot on the Isara 50. I completely agree with Beiland on the square bows; what were they thinking? Hopefully they change that on the 45. But it's hard to find much to not like on this one. Same flybridge pros/cons as the Lagoon 440/450 but add a hard top with isenglass enclosure to any flybridge cat and you've knocked out 80% of the "cons." If anyone gets more photos of these pleeease post them...it's boat porn at it's best.

[deckofficer]

Originally Posted by beiland

I looked up 'induction cooking here,
Induction cooking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

...and I can see some positives for it, BUT I still can't imagine a chef having control over that flame of heat they are use to. I don't know of any good cook that advocates electric cooktops??

To create that much magnetic feild to make induction cooking is a LOT of AC current at low voltage. I'm not sure that most normal inverters will supply that

A typical 2000 watt inverter would have no problem with the portable hot plate style induction cook top. The full blown 3000 watt built ins would take some grunt, but nothing a 48 VDC 4800 watt AC out inverter couldn't handle with ease. At 12 volts that would be a 250 amp draw on the batteries but at 48 volts 62 amps.

[goldiphlox]

Wow! I think i need a sugar daddy cuz im in love ....

[beiland]

Originally Posted by bryguy67

This cat is like cocaine...the first photos are free. I can't get enough. But $1.4M U.S.? Over my head. We are considering a Lagoon 450 but Isara is coming out with a 45 footer. They are talking mid $800's for that one.

50' to 45' and 600K less....hard to understand?

[bryguy67]

Well we went to the Fall Annapolis show and spent a ton of time on the Isara 50. The quality was very good; much better than the production boats. I flipped an interior cushion over and the guy who made it had put his initials on the bottom. Little things like that were throughout; I really picked it apart. Graham from Worldwide Cats was very helpful and he introduced us to 2 Isara partners who were happy to spend time with us and answer questions. We asked about the square bows and they said future boats won't have those (whew!). They do have the option of a Yanmar warranted hybrid system that is much different (and simpler) than the previoiusly tried and failed systems. This one actually makes sense. Just Google "yanmar sd40 hybrid." The helm layout on the 50 at the show doesn't work for me, but the future boats inlcuding the 45 footer will have a helm layout close to that of the FP Helia which is just amazing. These boats come loaded with high end gear and will be a contender for sure.

[bryguy67]

Isara 45

[catsrule]

I know that World Wide Catamarans are main agents. Graham Stimson is the dealer, a real nice Guy who seems to know what he is talking about.
The 50 was to big for us even though my Wife liked it and it was over our budget but Isara are now building a 45 and a 65 as well as the 50.
They work out about 20% more expensive than the Lagoon or Fountaine Pajot but Wow!
A different class..... lots of extra goodies and very spacious.
I think they are doing deals at the moment to get some boats at various shows.

[catsrule]

I agree with Clear Horizons This was the best cat at the show by far. The Guy said it was about 20% more expensive than a Lagoon but Wow! what a boat.
Its to big for me, and above my budget, I am in trouble because my Wife liked it.
The new 45 they are building looks nice though by the drawings.
We spoke to Graham a Brit from Worldwide Catamarans the main Agents for Isara.
New his stuff and not to pushy.

[Cotemar]

I liked the Isara 50 that was at the Annapolis boat show this fall, but its built for the upper end customer that has extra money to burn.
It is out of most cruisers price range. They will sell a few, but never go production.

The bows were flat which was strange to me.

[catsrule]

The Isara 50 is gorgeous, nothing comes close. I want one! I was looking at a Lagoon, I think I would much prefer the new Isara 45 not much difference in price, but lots more goodies and so much prettier. Just been in touch with World Wide Catamarans the Agent for Isara Yachts. We saw the 50 footer at Annapolis Show.

[bryguy67]

Cotemar....see previous post in this thread re: flat bows. They won't be doing that anymore.