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Skip, does the gal come with that trimaran?....might be worth it.
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yeah... I suppose that sweet girl/lady is just an animator to keep the prize high. Loosing mind by hormon cntrolled (and mislead) brain

Luckily as critical Journalist I can keep myself on distance to "gender aspects".
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Secondly, be very aware of the owner who states he is selling it fast due to health reasons.
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I think here the owner is in the bad position. If he needs urgently the
money there are only two ways: (A) He offers a very attractive, fully refitted boat in excellent condition to push the prize up. Or (B) he let fall the prize deep down to get quickly the
money.
Fairly to say, the times of (A) mostly are gone. As the concurrence is still high. - Too many good boats out in the size of 12-13 meteres. - We
multihull lovers look around the globe, no national search. Easily done via
Internet nowadays. Bad for sellers. :-)
Just to give one example of "competitive concurrence" to demonstrate that the market is overflooded with good boats, e.g. the sister ship of legendary Crowther 40
Trimaran Verbatim is for sales...
( Rec.: Most impressive vid ever seen about the surf into harbour bay... mind blowing:
Have some patiency, as the intro is long. But its very teachable.)
Sister ship of Verbatim is the
Tri Ave Gitana...such a boat isn't too prizely, as it has everything for (spartanic) cruising easily going >20 knots. This boat is
for sales now at 107,500 Euros.
Another example is a 43 Footer Trimaran in
San Francisco... a design by legendary Tony Grainger (whose boats won lots of trophies in Australia).
The owner want something around 64,397 Euros. And from month to month the prize is falling (couple of months ago I have seen this boat for roughly 80 Thousand Euros in the market).
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Originally Posted by alansmith
Make sure u get a good survey on the boat. Especially the rig should be looked at carefully. Many trimarans use outboards because of weight, interior room, and boat is easy to push.
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I am very aware of this... the stress factor for speedy boats, vibrations, hits by waves etc. ... is immense. Luckily the boat I have in perspective just was used for "leasure kind day sailing". So the owner was not a radical mad
racer (e.g. Round Britain, Fastnet etc. ...).
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I am also addicted to trimarans and fast cats.
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Nice to notice this... :-) What are you sailing ?
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Have you looked at the Farrier designed 31 or Corsairs?
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Sure I have a (foldable) Farrier 30 footer as an alternative option. Roomy boat... but the owner is little bit "resistant" against to recognize what the boat is worthy. - I wont pay overprized as I know that probably 150-200 % I have to invest extra to adapt the boats to my needs. :-)
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I believe you are an experienced speed junkie.
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I became addicted to Multihulls when skippering for a private owner a 15 meter cruising Aluminium
catamaran.... and experiencing this boat > 20 knots let me recognize: I dont want have slow boats anymore.
I was always a sportive sailor. I love to trim a boat... and luckily till today I am physically in good conditions.
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So u fully understand how big those rigs are and how quickly you can get out of control singlehandedly, right?
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I had to deliver professionally 30-40 meter tall ships two-handed. I know what you are talking about. :-)
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I was speaking to a gent a couple of months ago about his Santa Cruz 50 something. They are downwind sleds with prodigious speed. He and his wife had done the Pacific thing. He said it was downright scary how fast and out of control a big rig can get in the blink of an eye.
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I am already in proof for specific
safety issues. In
France they have built some tools to make such speedy boats more safely. Will give report as soon I have some more details about.
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The other thing to be said is that boats like trimarans can be very wet rides in some sea states. That should factor deeply into your equation about bagging clothing.
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you are right.... but I am sure, that I wont get it so wetty as Thomas Coville has it on his
maxi :-)
One can learn from Loick Peyron a lot. In my understanding one reason why he is so successfully, because he makes it very comfortable on the
racing boats, in the sense of: Keep dry and have a good time (e.g. good cooking/meals). Many videos clearly show this.
To protect the centre
cockpit against
wind and spray
water is urgent. For long distance I would not prefer a boat with tillers on the amas like most of the Multi50 have it...
Most crazy guy sailing bumpy wet is Alain Gautier on his 60 footer Foncia... take some tissues because of the damm*
music :-)
That way it becomes stressfully (or only some mad sailors like Gautier love it).
I like and prefer the
wheel steering centred.... one reason why I am interested in the boat you have seen in the vid. Having a good
autopilot is something important on such a boat. Just talked with NKE (which is used for
offshore racing and Vendee Globe) on speedy boats. They use a specific processor called
Gyropilot 2.
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If it is not considered too impolite, what is the price on the boat...roughly?
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Not impolite.... but too early. :-) You will understand, that I can talk about after the deal is done, or - knocking on
wood - I should have failed to get the tri. :-)
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I wish you well and am happy for u. Good luck, mate
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Tks.