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Old 10-06-2024, 12:30   #241
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Ours is an sc. We weighed the models and prices and by the time we added the options we wanted (that come standard on the sc) the price was approaching the SC price, but then with keels and an aluminum rig rather than cf.

They have given us some feedback, but there's more to discuss. As someone mentioned, the Wynn's props are set up for max regeneration. Which means they're pitched so that they spin the most rather than thrust more for each spin. We will not be doing that.

We'll be sailing our current vessel over to meet it in the Philippines and cruise there.
Are you getting glass or plexi windows? Originally the Wynns said they were gettting glass but I haven't noticed them mention it since launch. While I assume the glass is heavier I'm not sure how the new Lewmar glass compares in weight to plexi.

It strikes me as a really interesting weight tradeoff for a performance cat. But I sure would like the ease of maintenance and longevity of glass. After 5 years or so, plexi is just a pain.
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Are you getting glass or plexi windows? Originally the Wynns said they were gettting glass but I haven't noticed them mention it since launch. While I assume the glass is heavier I'm not sure how the new Lewmar glass compares in weight to plexi.

It strikes me as a really interesting weight tradeoff for a performance cat. But I sure would like the ease of maintenance and longevity of glass. After 5 years or so, plexi is just a pain.
Per our contract the salon windows are tempered glass. The hatches are lewmar, unspecified.
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Per our contract the salon windows are tempered glass.
Glass windows and /or hatches are a huge improvement over the plastic alternative.
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Are you getting glass or plexi windows? Originally the Wynns said they were gettting glass but I haven't noticed them mention it since launch. While I assume the glass is heavier I'm not sure how the new Lewmar glass compares in weight to plexi.

It strikes me as a really interesting weight tradeoff for a performance cat. But I sure would like the ease of maintenance and longevity of glass. After 5 years or so, plexi is just a pain.

Our boat has about 104 sqft of "windows" area. The ISO CE requirements with our opening size is 1/2" if acrylic and 5/16" if tempered glass. The weight difference is 136 lbs overall.
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Our boat has about 104 sqft of "windows" area. The ISO CE requirements with our opening size is 1/2" if acrylic and 5/16" if tempered glass. The weight difference is 136 lbs overall.
Did you guys go with glass Matt?
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Still deciding. The cost is 5 times acrylic. I'd like to go with tempered/laminated, but that's almost 10 times the cost.
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Personally, as an owner of a boat with polycarbonate windows, I'd sacrifice the weight and find the money to go glass.
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Still deciding. The cost is 5 times acrylic. I'd like to go with tempered/laminated, but that's almost 10 times the cost.
This is one area that Iíd absolutely sacrifice the dollars and weight. Just walking the dock recently in Jolly Harbor at sunrise when the angle of the light was just right I cringed as I walked by all the cats with plastic windows and the crazing that every single one of them had.

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This is one area that Iíd absolutely sacrifice the dollars and weight. Just walking the dock recently in Jolly Harbor at sunrise when the angle of the light was just right I cringed as I walked by all the cats with plastic windows and the crazing that every single one of them had.

Your future self will thank you!

Acrylic has 15-17x the impact resistance of tempered glass and does not shatter. Why bother with weight saving carbon and then accept the weight of glass.
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Acrylic has 15-17x the impact resistance of tempered glass and does not shatter. Why bother with weight saving carbon and then accept the weight of glass.
The impact resistance on these glass windows made by lewmar is pretty impressive. I'll be glad not to have to replace all my windows after 5 years because they've crazed/gone translucent.
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Acrylic has 15-17x the impact resistance of tempered glass and does not shatter. Why bother with weight saving carbon and then accept the weight of glass.
As an engineer I can answer this one easily. Itís because tempered glass exceeds the performance requirements for the application by 10X, so just because acrylic is 15x better in a single metric does not mean itís the best choice.

Acrylic will scratch and craze and need to be replaced. Walk any dock and look at how bad it looks after a few years. Glass windows can have ceramic UV and Heat mitigation film applied that will cut down the head in the saloon by 12-15 degrees. How important is that in the tropics?

An airplane is 4000x faster across the Atlantic Ocean that a catamaran, doesnít always mean itís the right choice for the goal in mind.
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