I'm going to take a run at this from a different direction.
As I write I am on a cat that just sold
mid-delivery. I'm a very active delivery skipper
and see a lot of surveys. They are uniformly poor. Sorry if that offends some of the surveyors I know are on CF. I've read hundreds of surveys and then sailed the boats. I've driven on dozens of sea trials and seen the shortfalls. I've rescued deals to the satisfaction of boat
seller and buyer because the surveyor
doesn't know what s/he is looking at. I have two pages of notes from the survey on this boat
of shortfalls; problems not with the boat but with the survey - before I even stepped on the boat.
So I understand and support your motivation whether you are going to be able to achieve your goal or not.
Almost without exception, review of electronics
in surveys are useless. No firmware dates, no chart provenance, no location of a/p fluxgate
, superficial testing of a/p at sea trial. Certainly no SWR test for the VHF
. Forget anything on HF/SSB or satellite
or cell booster. There are huge implications here. On the boat upon which I sit, there are four instruments
that show battery
voltage. The numbers reported are wildly different (2V from lowest to highest). Three of the four at the nav station. Not a peep in the survey. Still tracking that down. Autopilot
never calibrated. Report says no AIS
. Targets all around right there on the chartplotter
. Marinetraffic reports transmission
. If I never see "powers up and appears to work" again it will be too soon.
is almost as bad. Missed systems. Systems reported as good that don't work
. On this boat, report says no inverter
. Here I sit at anchor
with my laptop
plugged in typing. Inverter
in starboard engine room big as life. How do you miss a big teal and gray box? Refrigeration
reported as working. We are struggling to get down below 45F with two bags of ice in there. Surveyor
probably just flipped on the breaker, listened for the compressor
, and put his hand on the evaporator and called it a day. Useless. Did not test the aircon or the watermaker
. Aircon doesn't cool or heat well and watermaker
is inop. Can't even bother to plug
a polarity tester into outlets. On this boat the survey reported the cooker as inop. The surveyor didn't read the label on the Xintex propane
fume detector to understand how to turn it on.
How often do you see a surveyor with any tool in his/her hand except a mallet for hull
sounding? "No disassembly." Bah! You can't unscrew an inspection
plate? Peek into a tank? Four screws to take a cosmetic cover off inside a locker to actually look at something?
Surveyors who can't sail. Don't even know enough--rigging survey or not--to use binoculars to view the deadend of the main halyard
American surveyors focused on ABYC surveying a CE boat? Forget it. Surveyor fails. Get an EU boat that's built to CE and been in the US for a few years? Forget it. Got a blue button the surveyors expects to be red or yellow? Ha!
The examples from this boat are just examples. I see the same shortfalls over and over again. Hundreds of times. The comments in this thread to "just get a good survey" make me laugh. Hard. I would get a survey myself but my expectations would be very low.
So I get your motivation John. I'm with you. I don't think you'll get an extended sea trial but I sure see the merits. IANAL. My thought, offered with respect, is a big(ish) escrow account for shortfalls that are not as presented in the listing for the boat.