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Old 25-11-2019, 04:44   #16
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I donít know- but having sailed on an A57 in moderate conditions (like 12-15 kts) and going 10-13 kts SOG easily while poorly trimmed (die to sail testing) I can say that itís plenty fast.
Not wishing to be picky but 10-13 kts SOG with a 5 kt favourable current is p**s poor.

When comparing performance it is boat speed, through the water, that is important, not SOG.

Just saying.
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Old 26-11-2019, 18:48   #17
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Not wishing to be picky but 10-13 kts SOG with a 5 kt favourable current is p**s poor.



When comparing performance it is boat speed, through the water, that is important, not SOG.



Just saying.


Read my post again and tell me where I quoted current. There was no current- it was on the Chesapeake where it barely runs. SOG was speed through water.

And the 10-13 was with partially luffing sails since the sailmaker and riggers were more interested in tweaking and testing than speed. It felt like just above idle speed
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Not wishing to be picky but 10-13 kts SOG with a 5 kt favourable current is p**s poor.

When comparing performance it is boat speed, through the water, that is important, not SOG.

Just saying.
Loping along COMFORTABLY at 10-13 knots like it's nothing in a cruising catamaran means 200+ mile days.

How do you know there was a 5 knot current?
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Loping along COMFORTABLY at 10-13 knots like it's nothing in a cruising catamaran means 200+ mile days.

How do you know there was a 5 knot current?
I didn't know there was a 5 knot current, I was making the point that quoting SOG was irrelevant to the performance of a boat.

And yes 200+ mile days are achievable
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I didn't know there was a 5 knot current, I was making the point that quoting SOG was irrelevant to the performance of a boat.



And yes 200+ mile days are achievable


Just curious, where do you sail that there are 5 knot currents?
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SKYLARK, the Atlantic 72ft

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I also see they did away with the oddly comforting but silly internal helm ó the only times anyone hand steers are in tight quarters or in sporty weather. In both cases you need to be outside.



^^ This.


I've sailed a smaller Atlantic, and the forward cockpit is fun in pleasant weather, but make no sense in cold, dreary weather, or even light winds and hot sun. There is a good reason that mid-sized (not crewed) cats evolved towards a hard top with outside steering. It is the most versatile, SAFE all-weather solution.


In my experience cruising involves rain, searing sun, long watches, and cold. The best answer is an outside steering station under a hard top, joined to a heated salon with a door and unrestricted 360 view. You don't get nearly as tired and wind blown during a long day. And how much fun would that forward station be, for 8 hours in screaming wind and flying spray? Not much. To me, it's a day sailing layout.
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Saphira was in the Bight at Norman Island in BVI this past week.
Beautiful vessel...

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^^ This.


I've sailed a smaller Atlantic, and the forward cockpit is fun in pleasant weather, but make no sense in cold, dreary weather, or even light winds and hot sun. There is a good reason that mid-sized (not crewed) cats evolved towards a hard top with outside steering. It is the most versatile, SAFE all-weather solution.


In my experience cruising involves rain, searing sun, long watches, and cold. The best answer is an outside steering station under a hard top, joined to a heated salon with a door and unrestricted 360 view. You don't get nearly as tired and wind blown during a long day. And how much fun would that forward station be, for 8 hours in screaming wind and flying spray? Not much. To me, it's a day sailing layout.

First, I have never even sailed a forward cockpit cat. But from the looks it seems very comfortable for sail handling, and when the weather is not suitable you would sit inside on your watch?
No need to spend unnecessary time outside in weather...
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