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Ajlawson2 · 17-06-2020, 22:51

Quick update on the Marples CC 35 in Olympia. Price $5000

Did a survey by myself today. Had a blast knocking on every square inch of this boat. 80% of the deck in front of the helm is soft and rotted about 1/4 minimum.

Cav:The orange lines are some type of bonding that is being forced out. The best news is the main sail is in good shape. I was worried about it having mold but it’s solid.
The not so great news is in the photos below. (Spoiler) There is standing water in the empty engine compartment and a couple of the bays where you can see water damage. There are a few blisters on the port ama hull. The outboard mount is not in great shape. The water may be coming from the centerboard area. The centerboard may be water logged and has damage as well as the centerboard housing. The underside of the mast has water damage as well. The transom area is quite dull sounding too. I have a ton of notes and diagrams that are marked up and photos and videos.

Trying to track down a couple other boats and will update w price and info/photos when I get it.

Ajlawson2 · 17-06-2020, 23:19

More pics

purvisgs · 18-06-2020, 00:40

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Originally Posted by Buzzman

Anyone know what this tri in Santa Rosa is?

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa...142123374.html

it's a tradewinds 28

snort · 18-06-2020, 08:42

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Originally Posted by Ajlawson2

Quick update on the Marples CC 35 in Olympia. Price $5000

Did a survey by myself today. Had a blast knocking on every square inch of this boat. 80% of the deck in front of the helm is soft and rotted about 1/4 minimum.

Cav:The orange lines are some type of bonding that is being forced out. The best news is the main sail is in good shape. I was worried about it having mold but it’s solid.
The not so great news is in the photos below. (Spoiler) There is standing water in the empty engine compartment and a couple of the bays where you can see water damage. There are a few blisters on the port ama hull. The outboard mount is not in great shape. The water may be coming from the centerboard area. The centerboard may be water logged and has damage as well as the centerboard housing. The underside of the mast has water damage as well. The transom area is quite dull sounding too. I have a ton of notes and diagrams that are marked up and photos and videos.

Trying to track down a couple other boats and will update w price and info/photos when I get it.

Hilarious. It's overpriced by at least $7K.

Ajlawson2 · 18-06-2020, 23:01

Don’t remember seeing this one posted on here yet! I may need to check it out once I’m back in Cali.
Crowther buccaneer 36 trimaran $28000 Ventura ca

https://ventura.craigslist.org/boa/d/ventura-crowther-buccanner/7136688798.html

Seems like there are some good deals starting to pop up

Ajlawson2 · 18-06-2020, 23:03

~$100000 tri and slip

https://santabarbara.craigslist.org/...104036599.html

Ajlawson2 · 18-06-2020, 23:09

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Originally Posted by Buzzman

'Nother Horstmann. 36' Tristar in SFB
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa...140552047.html

Would love to tap on this boat and see what shape it is in all around.

Does anyone know what kinds of speeds you could see on a Horstmann? Say average speed by sail and max speed by sail? Tia

Franziska · 18-06-2020, 23:24

That looks like a great deal!

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Originally Posted by Ajlawson2

Don’t remember seeing this one posted on here yet! I may need to check it out once I’m back in Cali.
Crowther buccaneer 36 trimaran $28000 Ventura ca

https://ventura.craigslist.org/boa/d/ventura-crowther-buccanner/7136688798.html

Seems like there are some good deals starting to pop up

Sand crab · 19-06-2020, 04:42

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Originally Posted by Franziska

That looks like a great deal!

I had a Buc and that price is a fair price but it's not a great deal. The boat certainly looks good and I might buy it if I was looking for one again
There was a discussion here on CF about the use of these laminated beams that this one has which is exactly like mine vs the aluminum beams that other Bucs have. There seemed to be a consensus that all Bucs had aluminum beams so what I had was a mod or something else other than a Buc. It's nice to see one more like mine which makes 3 now because I have seen another also. The original Buc plans must have had this as an option.
They are fast, I had mine at 15.5 knots. I'll bet it would do 20.

purvisgs · 22-06-2020, 14:34

Crowther Twiggy 32 in FL has come down a little on price, https://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/84744

So has the Kelsall in NY
https://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/85222

heymatey · 23-06-2020, 06:18

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Originally Posted by purvisgs

This looks interesting in RI usa, Luau 35 , Bertrand Lefebvre designed ? , 30k https://boston.craigslist.org/sob/boa/d/newport-sailing-catamaran

1996 Luau 35 used boat for sale - boatersresources.com

https://books.google.com/books?id=cb...amaran&f=false

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22l...=firefox-b-1-d

The owner now has this posted in a different craigslist ad:
https://providence.craigslist.org/bo...130756856.html

I visited the boat (prototype Luau 35 that never made it into production) last week. Spent a few hours with the pleasant (original) owner going all over it. It *does* need exterior paint, plus tidying-up down below (headliner in aft cabins, some wood veneer in bridgedeck cabin peeling, stuff like that). Several opening and fixed ports are crazed, a few opening ports leak (especially on starboard side).

Deck seems solid. No anchor windlass. Stanchion posts all around felt solid. Standing rigging and non-rotating mast looked ok, halyards were quite weathered. Owner says original sails (main and jib only - no screecher/spinnaker) were gone over by North and deemed in good shape (but they're 26 years old!). Outboards (dual Nissan 9.9s) were just gone over and delivered back to boat.

Boat has been on the hard for several years. Leading edge of port keel joint needs attention. Keels themselves seem to be in good shape. Hulls seem to be generally OK, but there is some unfairness in topsides of starboard hull. Aft bridgedeck has holes where original outboard mounts were. Boat definitely has foam coring in that area! <grin>

Owner said he had a quote to paint the hulls and smooth parts of the deck for under $10k (If I recall correctly, it was around $8k). He was going to paint the non-skid portions. If it was me, I'd remove all the windows/deck hardware before painting, which would be labor-intensive.

Dual aft cabins are nicely separated from each other by a below-cockpit storage locker. Aft cabin beds are athwartships, not fore-and-aft. Nice bridgedeck salon and navigation area.

When considering projects I always ask myself what would something be worth if completely fixed up. The construction of this boat (divynacell/epoxy) is compelling, but she is an orphan, essentially custom boat. With no track record, this is a niche buy. She easily needs $30k retail work done (paint/sails/rigging/etc...). Very little/no up-side at $30k asking price.

I took several videos and uploaded them to YouTube. Am waiting to hear back from the owner if he is OK with me sharing before posting link.

ILuvNkdChx · 23-06-2020, 08:59

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Originally Posted by heymatey

The owner now has this posted in a different craigslist ad:
https://providence.craigslist.org/bo...130756856.html

I visited the boat (prototype Luau 35 that never made it into production) last week. Spent a few hours with the pleasant (original) owner going all over it. It *does* need exterior paint, plus tidying-up down below (headliner in aft cabins, some wood veneer in bridgedeck cabin peeling, stuff like that). Several opening and fixed ports are crazed, a few opening ports leak (especially on starboard side).

Deck seems solid. No anchor windlass. Stanchion posts all around felt solid. Standing rigging and non-rotating mast looked ok, halyards were quite weathered. Owner says original sails (main and jib only - no screecher/spinnaker) were gone over by North and deemed in good shape (but they're 26 years old!). Outboards (dual Nissan 9.9s) were just gone over and delivered back to boat.

Boat has been on the hard for several years. Leading edge of port keel joint needs attention. Keels themselves seem to be in good shape. Hulls seem to be generally OK, but there is some unfairness in topsides of starboard hull. Aft bridgedeck has holes where original outboard mounts were. Boat definitely has foam coring in that area! <grin>

Owner said he had a quote to paint the hulls and smooth parts of the deck for under $10k (If I recall correctly, it was around $8k). He was going to paint the non-skid portions. If it was me, I'd remove all the windows/deck hardware before painting, which would be labor-intensive.

Dual aft cabins are nicely separated from each other by a below-cockpit storage locker. Aft cabin beds are athwartships, not fore-and-aft. Nice bridgedeck salon and navigation area.

When considering projects I always ask myself what would something be worth if completely fixed up. The construction of this boat (divynacell/epoxy) is compelling, but she is an orphan, essentially custom boat. With no track record, this is a niche buy. She easily needs $30k retail work done (paint/sails/rigging/etc...). Very little/no up-side at $30k asking price.

I took several videos and uploaded them to YouTube. Am waiting to hear back from the owner if he is OK with me sharing before posting link.

Good info Heymatey. I viewed this boat, as well. In addition to your findings there was also wet core material in the ceiling of the port-aft stateroom, where the cockpit seat transitions to cockpit floor. The port stanchion line was installed incorrectly, rubbing against the port shroud, which has almost worn through 2 wires. Also, approximately (2) 6" x 6" soft spots in the starboard hull below the waterline that can be flexed by hand. I didn't finish inspecting her because, imho, the cost-to-repair plus asking price already exceeded what she would be worth fixed up.

NevilleCat · 24-06-2020, 04:09

What about this Cross 38 in Ca?
I guess it might not fit the definition of "cheap" judging by what I see in the posts but it looks like it has potential
https://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/83330#

snort · 24-06-2020, 06:19

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Originally Posted by ILuvNkdChx

Good info Heymatey. I viewed this boat, as well. In addition to your findings there was also wet core material in the ceiling of the port-aft stateroom, where the cockpit seat transitions to cockpit floor. The port stanchion line was installed incorrectly, rubbing against the port shroud, which has almost worn through 2 wires. Also, approximately (2) 6" x 6" soft spots in the starboard hull below the waterline that can be flexed by hand. I didn't finish inspecting her because, imho, the cost-to-repair plus asking price already exceeded what she would be worth fixed up.

Thanks for saving me a long trip to visit this one! It sounded too good to be true.