Catamarans With Comfort and Performance

[Robert Rutledge]

The Outremer is the boat that would fit your requirement deep dagger boards, great pointing ability and speed. I wish I could afford one!

Rob

[barnakiel]

I like Catanas. They sail well and they have good interior.

Outremers are faster but they are sort off too raw inside.

b.

[Tscott8201]

Originally Posted by Robert Rutledge

The Outremer is the boat that would fit your requirement deep dagger boards, great pointing ability and speed. I wish I could afford one!

Rob

And that is part of the question. What boats in the price range of around $250K offer a good compromise between comfort and good sailing ability. I realize it's all a trade off.

Tom

[barnakiel]

Originally Posted by Tscott8201

And that is part of the question. What boats in the price range of around $250K offer a good compromise between comfort and good sailing ability. I realize it's all a trade off.

Tom

For me the choice would be a Catana 43 (I think they were called Ocean Class back then).

I have sailed her bigger sister. Seen C 43 in Martinique countless times, they always catch my eye.

b.

[smj]

Originally Posted by barnakiel

For me the choice would be a Catana 43 (I think they were called Ocean Class back then).

I have sailed her bigger sister. Seen C 43 in Martinique countless times, they always catch my eye.

b.

You would be hard pressed to find a Catana 43 for around $250,000


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[barnakiel]

Originally Posted by smj

You would be hard pressed to find a Catana 43 for around $250,000


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You talk because you know or just to talk? ;-)

2004 Catana Ocean Class Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

Send an offer see what happens. Or wait for a positive CCY swing. Or stretch your leg ...

In fact, we had a good look at one priced at less than that last winter in le Marin.

You seem to forget they were charter boats too...

Cheers,
b.

[smj]

Originally Posted by barnakiel

You talk because you know or just to talk? ;-)

2004 Catana Ocean Class Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

Send an offer see what happens. Or wait for a positive CCY swing. Or stretch your leg ...

In fact, we had a good look at one priced at less than that last winter in le Marin.

You seem to forget they were charter boats too...

Cheers,
b.

At today's really low euro to dollar exchange rate, that still puts the boat at well over $300,000. Take into account the location of the boat and possible condition and......but anything is possible!

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[Southern Star]

Barnakiel, smj did not say that it would be impossible to find one for $250K, only that you would be hard pressed. My review of the ones listed show the cheapest (the one you provided a link to) at $316K - or 26.4% above the OP's limit and another in Martinique (much closer for someone living in the US) for 300,00 euros, or about $380 USD. The amount that would be required to get either boat up to cruising standards is, of course, unknown.

Could someone find a good example at a suitable location for someone in the US for $250? As he says, anything is possible. But to suggest that he 'talks just to talk' might be a little strong.

Brad

[FollowingCs]

I think Barnakiel's idea was to send in a $250k offer on THAT boat. You never know what the seller will accept until you make an offer. They could be in real pain with marina fees, you never know.

~ Following C's ~

[Sand crab]

Originally Posted by barnakiel

For me the choice would be a Catana 43 (I think they were called Ocean Class back then).

I think the Ocean Class designation is one with an OC option package. They made regular C43s too. Many other models had the OC option as well.

[valhalla360]

You can have:
- Fast
- Spacious and comfortable
- Good condition (ie: you don't buy for $250k and put another $100k into repairs)

For $250k...Pick the two that you want.

[contrail]

I like the Voyage boats, but "fastest with keels"? Not quite! Over the last nine years of operating my Leopard 45 in the BVI crewed charter trade, we have gone up against more than a few Voyages. We consistently edge the 500's, and with the 440, it isn't even close. This is not to say that Voyage catamarans aren't lovely boats or that they don't sail quickly, because they are and they do, but just to say that they may not be the "fastest with keels". It would be very interesting to see how we would do against that 450 with the open salon, however, as I am betting that it is a good bit lighter than the "normal" model, and thus maybe quite a bit faster. Could make for an intriguing "time trial"!

[Training Wheels]

Outremer 45


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[Sailingcouple13]

Good piont should not make such bold statement. But Beating out a charter boat in the BVI's especially a voyage is normally sailed by a bare boat sailer with minimal experience. Sailing your own boat with an experienced crew you should out sail most of the boats you see. Speed on these cruising catamarans is so affected by weight of stuff on the boat, and sail area snd condition folding props, bottom condition etc. Ect. Ect. I have not found a 45 leapard that has kept up with us, but we cary more sail as well. The standard sail package on our boat was very inadequate. We added a 1000 sgft mylar sail on a 6' bow sprit and with and average 75% of wind seed with light ship. Problem for us we cruise two months at a time like now heading to the florida keys, with fifty cases of beer....damn we are really slow. But not thirsty.

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[weavis]

Originally Posted by Sailingcouple13

Problem for us we cruise two months at a time like now heading to the florida keys, with fifty cases of beer....damn we are really slow. But not thirsty.

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And as a fellow sailor may I congratulate you on getting the priorities right.