Catamaran vs Monohull Crew Safety

[boom23]

Originally Posted by mglonnro

Yachtworld lists a 2018 Amel 50 for roughly the same price as a 2012 Outremer 5x. It would be absolutely great to experience being on the water with, for example, these two boats. Easier said than done.

The Amel 50 is a heavy cruising boat built for comfort. The 2012 Outremer is a light performance catamaran. Their focus is not the same.

[mglonnro]

Originally Posted by boom23

The Amel 50 is a heavy cruising boat built for comfort. The 2012 Outremer is a light performance catamaran. Their focus is not the same.

Yes, indeed, they are two very different boats.

However, both manufacturers do emphasize the comfort aspect (Outremer even goes as far as saying 'unequaled comfort'), so I do think they might have a somewhat overlapping target group of potential customers. The 5x I've seen videos of has a washing machine installed. Isn't that proof of something?

[boom23]

Originally Posted by mglonnro

Yes, indeed, they are two very different boats.

However, both manufacturers do emphasize the comfort aspect (Outremer even goes as far as saying 'unequaled comfort'), so I do think they might have a somewhat overlapping target group of potential customers. The 5x I've seen videos of has a washing machine installed. Isn't that proof of something? [emoji2]

Leave it to marketing people...
There is no question that the Outremer 5x is a great catamaran (I hope it has high enough bridgedeck clearance). Compared to the Amel 50, the Outremer 5x is twice as expensive, 4,000kg lighter in weight, and almost 59ft long. Hardly a fair comparison.

[mglonnro]

Originally Posted by boom23

Leave it to marketing people...
There is no question that the Outremer 5x is a great catamaran (I hope it has high enough bridgedeck clearance). Compared to the Amel 50, the Outremer 5x is twice as expensive, 4,000kg lighter in weight, and almost 59ft long. Hardly a fair comparison.

Yes, and I didn't mean 'compare' in a 'which is better' sense... just that it would be great to experience how it all feels on two so different yachts.

[smj]

Originally Posted by fxykty

I don’t know about that, but on my iPhone autocorrect keeps changing ‘jib’ to ‘job’ and ‘furler’ to ‘curler’. Requires careful review and/or editing posts to avoid looking sloppy.

The worst one on my iPad is changing the word dock to dick. Has made for some rather embarrassing misunderstandings.

[daletournier]

Originally Posted by smj

The worst one on my iPad is changing the word dock to dick. Has made for some rather embarrassing misunderstandings.

Try sending the word "Gonorrhea " to your 80 year old mother!! I somehow did that.

[smj]

Originally Posted by daletournier

Try sending the word "Gonorrhea " to your 80 year old mother!! I somehow did that.

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[fxykty]

I’m not sure whether autocorrect problems are a win for monos or for cats. Call it a draw, with no clear victor? Kind of like both have hull or hulls that get wet.

Regarding a washing machine, we’ve got one. Certainly makes one domestic chore a bit easier, though hanging sheets out for drying does require some high lines.

[mglonnro]

I found a published article with some info!

Emergency preparedness and long-distance leisure catamaran sailing

Medical treatment for 24 mainly minor incidents and 10 check-up interventions were recorded. Injuries (4.5/1000 h) were incurred largely by stumbles (lacerations, contusion, haematoma) and cooking (burns). The most common illnesses (5.8/1000 h) were seasickness, sunburn and dietary disorders. Incidents were significantly dependent on sailing conditions.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...65159710001978

The full text seems to be available here: https://dokumen.tips/documents/emerg...n-sailing.html

[Chotu]

Originally Posted by fxykty

I’m not sure whether autocorrect problems are a win for monos or for cats. Call it a draw, with no clear victor? Kind of like both have hull or hulls that get wet.

Regarding a washing machine, we’ve got one. Certainly makes one domestic chore a bit easier, though hanging sheets out for drying does require some high lines.

Is your washing machine one of those combo wash/dry units? Aren't they very small? We are thinking about those a bit but also I'm trying to keep the weight off.

[mglonnro]

Here's also a good (and new!) one:

Sailing Injuries: A Review of the Literature
ANDREW NATHANSON, MD, FACEP, FAWM
http://www.rimed.org/rimedicaljourna...-nathanson.pdf

It seems that the methodology and means are there, for comparing catamaran and monohull crew safety (injuries, illness), but nobody has specifically done that.

I assume one of the ARC events could be good for that, and combining manual data recording/surveys with weather data seems smart.

EDIT: About the washing machines. In the 5x video they seem to have a normally sized Bosch there. I checked what's currently available and you can get a decent washer dryer weighing just 65 kg.

[boom23]

Originally Posted by Chotu

Is your washing machine one of those combo wash/dry units? Aren't they very small? We are thinking about those a bit but also I'm trying to keep the weight off.

On my boat I have a 7kg LG washer/dryer. It works great!

[earthbm]

Originally Posted by boom23

On my boat I have a 7kg LG washer/dryer. It works great! Attachment 204345

Is there any point in looking for a 12V Washer? Do they even exist?

[OneHullPaul]

As monohulls don't heel noticably unless going upwind, and cruising catamarans can't go upwind, can't we call heeling a draw? :-)

[Tupaia]

Originally Posted by OneHullPaul

As monohulls don't heel noticably unless going upwind, and cruising catamarans can't go upwind, can't we call heeling a draw? :-)

Two wrongs don't make a right.