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Old 03-11-2022, 08:39   #61
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Re: Catamaran vs Monohull... advantages, disadvantages?

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It's kinda like buying a car....a VW and Porsche will both get you where you need to go.
Which one you choose is up to you and your pocket book.

Maintenance, off course, becomes a factor, not to mention the purchase price, but if you can afford the price tag of a Porsche, you can probably be able to afford the maintenance too.

That's the beauty of boats too. There must be 1,000's of sailboat models on the market, every lenght, cost, type and description.

But what I may like, may not suit someone else.

So if you like a cat, get a cat. If you like a mono, get a mono.

Don't blast each other over individual needs and perspective.
That's what I'd like to do, but it just doesn't seem possible. Not here in NW FL at least. There's one sailboat broker that I know of from Pensacola to Tampa (not including Tampa, no clue what's there). He only does used and gets what he gets, and never a cat. When I was car shopping with my wife, we drove half a dozen cars and sat in a dozen before we purchased. And we look every now and then to stay up to date for the next purchase. I'd like to do that with boats, but it doesn't seem possible. It'll be several years before we get a "modern" boat, but I'd like to be well educated on it before making a big purchase. The closest new boats I know of is Jeaneau in St. Augustine. Actually, the only catamarans I've ever seen in person are a couple Geminis and one Outremer.


With cars, people drive basically their whole lives. You can rent just about anything to test it for a couple hundred or at least ride in a friend's. You just know what cars feel like. Heck I drove the new C8 Corvette and new Tundra shortly after they came out. Told the salesmen that I just wanted to drive it and there's 0% chance of me buying it and they let me take them around the block.


I can't do that with any sailboat. When we went to the Jeaneau sales place in St Augustine, the salesman seemed like she did not want us there. I didn't think she was going to show us anything. The newest/biggest/nicest sailboat we've ever set foot on was an 80's Santana 30-30. We basically wanted to see what sailboats were.


Basically that's what this thread is... Trying to figure out what people look for in boats. Not even specifics. I could be comparing the equivalent of a Miata and and F350 and not know it.
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Old 03-11-2022, 09:15   #62
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Re: Catamaran vs Monohull... advantages, disadvantages?

You are saying the exact same thing as I am.

Look for something YOU want, not what your neighbor wants or a CF poster..

I built my first boat. A ketch. At that time, I didn't know a ketch from a stick in the ground. I made my pick from a picture in a magazine. Those two masts looked like they reached heaven. That's it, a tiny photo, was all it took. I fell in love with that picture. Could not say why, but it called my name.

I think most people feel the same way. The day will come, when a certain boat will just pull at your heartstring

I don't particularly like cats, I don't hate 'em, just don't care for them, I have been on several, but that is me. They are not my thing, but obviously are other people's thing.

I'm on my third boat now. It has an open transom. I used to think an open transom was the dumbest thing I ever saw, but now I've come to love and appreciate them.

Who knows, one day, I might feel that way about cats.
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Re: Catamaran vs Monohull... advantages, disadvantages?

Mono vs cat? You cannot brew beer on a monohull while underway. Check and mate.
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Re: Catamaran vs Monohull... advantages, disadvantages?

Cat v Mono?
Having had both I'd say a Cat is "driving a bus from point A to point B". Stable, flat, roomy, fast-ish, you are simply getting there. Nothing wrong with that really.

A Mono, you are sailing, you are heeling, strategizing more probably. Wind in your face, sensing the sea more, If you want the "pleasure" of sailing, it's a Mono experience.

For Cruising, both are just tools.
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I downsized to a 33 ft cat from a 40 ft monohull. Initially due to my wife’s issues with vertigo, the cat did help reduce and almost eliminate this issue. My cat is very old, and fast without the heeling, but is boring in most point of sail. The EDELCAT33 has two independent hulls and a nacelle so not like the condorams of today. Is akin to a keep with a soft top. Is fun is spartan and easy to steer. Incredible enough it has more space than my old CAL39.
So if feeling the sailing is your thing, probably stick to a mono, if being practical is your thing then go for a catamaran as lots of pluses in comfort, don’t worry about depth, and much faster then a mono
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Mono vs cat? You cannot brew beer on a monohull while underway. Check and mate.
I brewed beer all over the South Pacific in my mono. Mostly at anchor, but often enough underway. Never had a bad batch until I hit SE Asia, where its too damn hot.
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So if feeling the sailing is your thing, probably stick to a mono
Yeah, 'cause when I was blasting past monos doing doing double figures I couldn't feel the sailing.
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Yeah, 'cause when I was blasting past monos doing doing double figures I couldn't feel the sailing.


Sure, no drama other than having the right amount of canvas not to get into trouble, maybe because my rudders are basically barn door type? It tracks too well and so no excitement on dipping the rail, etc.
I have only clocked what the GPS claim to be 14 knots, it made me a bit nervous.
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Simi 60 I am hearing you. I remember doing 14 knots on a tri in Pittwater. Not sure if it was sailing or flying but it sure was fun.
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Re: Catamaran vs Monohull... advantages, disadvantages?

Remember that, like monos, there is a huge variety of cats. Many of them would bore me to tears to sail but there are some cruisers that sail like witches.

In Australia we had a great OMR series on the 70s and 80s that helped develop a great range of designers and boats that can cruise and sail very well.

IMHO we sadly have lost most of our local builders and now most cats are French cats with far less of an emphasis on sailing, but these can be found in Outremer and the like. But if you want a cat that cruises well and sails amazingly then look at the designs of Chamberlin, Grainger, Pescott, White, Woods, and Lock Crowther.

Just yesterday my 22 year old Chamberlin was sitting at 11 knots with a neophyte at the helm in 15 knots of breeze, on a beam reach. The neophyte said
"This is fun and easy"

I think that is why I love sailing my cat, it is super fun but also easy. Get a good cat and the sailing is great. Get a roomaran and the sailing is compromised for more accomodations that I could ever need.
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I really wish there was a market for "deck boat" sailboats. There's a dolphin tour catamaran here that is basically a sailing bar. It's a 40-50' cat that's completely open except for storage in the hulls. That's what I'd really like to have. A 30'-40' sailboat that is basically all cockpit. Racing-oriented boats are like that, but I've not seen any that are good for just cruising and hanging out... and they fail in the value aspect. I deffinitely would pay less for one, which is probably why I've not seen any.
I came across one of these for sale in Ft. Pierce, FL. On the hard next to our boat. If interested I can try and get more info.
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There were not many Mainecat's made, and they are a bit of a cult market - so it's hard to get on one to see if you like it and the prices are always high. Here's a 20 year old one for a mere $150K - https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/200...m--30-8571832/
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Re: Catamaran vs Monohull... advantages, disadvantages?

we are dedicated cat folk and can kick along when we want, but i have to ask what is wrong with boring sailing ?

when we are on an ocean passage the LAST thing we are looking for is excitement. boring is good...

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we are dedicated cat folk and can kick along when we want, but i have to ask what is wrong with boring sailing ?

when we are on an ocean passage the LAST thing we are looking for is excitement. boring is good...

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Couldn't agree more, ocean passages at 8-10knots, power it up to 17-18knots on coastal hops all while drinking tea.

Always first in the pub - what bigger advantage could you want.


As stated there are dead boring boats, mono and multi and there are boats that are more fun mono or multi. The multi's still get to the pub first.
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