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Old 13-11-2022, 07:29   #196
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Re: Catamaran vs Monohull... advantages, disadvantages?

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So you have to get into the 2,8 to 3Mio$ range to get a cat better than a mono?
No, the monohulls I compared these 2 cats with are also $2.8M price range with equivalent specifications. I’m comparing new state of the art cats to new monos. (A full carbon fiber 526 is about $2.4 with every conceivable option, 11.2 ton lightship at HH55 is about $3.2M and is about 14T, both are wind speed boats)

I agree there are pockets of price segments though where I’d say a mono would be a better choice. If you are doing high latitudes, a mono is the way to go without question in my opinion at any price point.
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I paid $35k for a cat that’s better than any mono, of course this is just my opinion and wouldn’t think everyone would agree with my opinion.
...for which purpose? (& what type?)
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If you are doing high latitudes, a mono is the way to go without question in my opinion at any price point.

Yep I agree an icebreaker is a monohull.
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...for which purpose? (& what type?)


Full time cruising/gunkholing. TRT 1200GT
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Yep I agree an icebreaker is a monohull.


If I need to break ice I made a serious mistake in my navigation!
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New video of the HH 55.

https://youtu.be/T3-JUKBi8h4
Nice looking cat, but way to many systems that would require maintenance or break for us.
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New video of the HH 55.

https://youtu.be/T3-JUKBi8h4
Nice looking cat, but way to many systems that would require maintenance or break for us.

And, 55ft is an unnecessarily massive vessel for a cruising couple.
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The fun continues in the North Atlantic

https://www.routedurhum.com/en/actualite/524

I went to a reception last night by Bill Lee in honor of his being inducted into the sailing hall of fame. He related a dinner with with Peter Johnstone who left the family Jboat business to found Gunboat, which promoted luxury fast catamarans. Peter is back with the family business at MJM (Mary Johnstone's Motorboat), which has morphed into luxury powerboats. The Gunboats ran into hard times when it turned out that their boats were more than a rich owner and his family could handle. The Gunboat name has been sold to another promoter.

The Eagle 53T is just another very high performance catamaran aimed at people with more money than brains. A wing mast and automated full foiling system--what could possibly go wrong? (not to mention the need for continuous diesel power) I can confidently predict that the 53T will go the way of the bitcoin.
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And, 55ft is an unnecessarily massive vessel for a cruising couple.
Says you.

If I want it to carry weight AND perform......
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Says you.



If I want it to carry weight AND perform......


And that’s why these threads get silly sometimes. Your definition of what you need to carry may differ from mine. That’s why they make boats of all different sizes and configurations.
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The fun continues in the North Atlantic

https://www.routedurhum.com/en/actualite/524

And your point is?
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If I need to break ice I made a serious mistake in my navigation!
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The Eagle 53T is just another very high performance catamaran aimed at people with more money than brains. A wing mast and automated full foiling system--what could possibly go wrong? (not to mention the need for continuous diesel power) I can confidently predict that the 53T will go the way of the bitcoin.

Why would this boat need continuous diesel power? I'm interested.
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I went to a reception last night by Bill Lee in honor of his being inducted into the sailing hall of fame. He related a dinner with with Peter Johnstone who left the family Jboat business to found Gunboat, which promoted luxury fast catamarans. Peter is back with the family business at MJM (Mary Johnstone's Motorboat), which has morphed into luxury powerboats. The Gunboats ran into hard times when it turned out that their boats were more than a rich owner and his family could handle. The Gunboat name has been sold to another promoter.

Gunboat was acquired by Grande Large in France so I fail to see the relevance of this in regard to catamarans vs monohulls.
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And that’s why these threads get silly sometimes. Your definition of what you need to carry may differ from mine. That’s why they make boats of all different sizes and configurations.
And people need to get a dose of reality and understand what their and their choice of vessels limitations are.

No boat is perfect, but some get closer than others and it's not always $$$ that get you there.
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