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Old 30-11-2016, 06:25   #316
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Re: Capsized Atlantic 57 Salvaged

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I don't know, somebody said that Chris White had said that 11 Atlantic 57 were made and two capsized. It is a frightening average. Maybe such a light boat pointed mostly for cruising should have a smaller rig.

As you know the percentage of capsizes on heavier cats with smaller rig as nothing to do with these numbers.
I agree with this.

The Atlantic 57 was actually the last remaining series-produced boat on my prospective future boat list before I tossed the entire list and decided to go custom build, so I studied this boat in some depth.

Even before this latest capsize, the rig was clearly too much for my kind of sailing and my latitudes. I would have had a smaller rig designed if I had decided to go with this boat.

Magnificent boat, however. This kind of risk goes with the territory, I think, if you want that kind of performance on a multihull. I think I would be ok with it in more benign latitudes, than where I like to sail.
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Chris White's Mastfoil Rig

Makes me kind of wonder where his (split rig) Mastfoil Rig concept has gone to ?
He really began in earnest to further develop this after Anna's capsize.

I wonder if he is just having difficulties with selling this (new and unusual) idea?

Here are 2 subject thread on this forum:
1) http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...oil-94716.html
2) http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...rig-71940.html

....and a few others:
1)Chris White Atlantic 47, MastFoil - Boat Design Forums
2) MastFoil™ on the Chris White Designs Atlantic 47 - Multihull Anarchy - Sailing Anarchy Forums
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Old 30-11-2016, 07:27   #318
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Re: Chris White's Mastfoil Rig

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Makes me kind of wonder where his (split rig) Mastfoil Rig concept has gone to ?
He really began in earnest to further develop this after Anna's capsize.

I wonder if he is just having difficulties with selling this (new and unusual) idea?

Here are 2 subject thread on this forum:
1) http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...oil-94716.html
2) http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...rig-71940.html

....and a few others:
1)Chris White Atlantic 47, MastFoil - Boat Design Forums
2) MastFoil™ on the Chris White Designs Atlantic 47 - Multihull Anarchy - Sailing Anarchy Forums
I guess it didn't work in real life conditions.

A split rig would seem to be a good idea on a boat like that. Get the CE down.

The idea of the mastfoil would seem to be ideal for a split rig -- as the masts produce drive instead of windage. So you get the benefits of a split rig without one of the major disadvantages. Really cool looking idea.

But of course there's a ton of daylight between "really cool looking idea" and something which really works in real life.
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Capsized Atlantic 57 Salvaged

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Makes me kind of wonder where his (split rig) Mastfoil Rig concept has gone to ?
He really began in earnest to further develop this after Anna's capsize.

I wonder if he is just having difficulties with selling this (new and unusual) idea?

Here are 2 subject thread on this forum:
1) http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...oil-94716.html
2) http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...rig-71940.html

....and a few others:
1)Chris White Atlantic 47, MastFoil - Boat Design Forums
2) MastFoil on the Chris White Designs Atlantic 47 - Multihull Anarchy - Sailing Anarchy Forums

They hadn't few teething issues and woris that they are slow.
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Damn iPad app. "had a few" ... and "word is"
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Mastfoil aero, very little response

I wonder if some of the teething problems was learning how to best utilize them?

I haven't seen a lot of personal experience responses on them.

And they certainly represented a much safer alternative to those ever towering sloop rigs.
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