Atlantic Delivery

[roetter]

Originally Posted by Captain Bill

I once lost all electrical power at 0200 120 miles off of Charleston. I did securite calls every 30 minutes while I was doing the repairs. It was mostly because I had no lights and no radar and container ships kept coming over the horizon. All I had was a hand held radio and GPS. I considered the calls informational so the big boys didn't run me down. I had no idea that in some parts of the world that would trigger a search. I like it when I learn something new.

Strange. Our BC ferries on the Pacific North West always call something like " Securite - Queen of Vancouver entering Active Pass south bound. Concerning vessels please contact on channel 16, 12" when they enter a narrow and winding passage. Nobody will send out the CG for a Securite. It is simply a warning for other vessels of a potential danger. In other words - Keep you eyes peeled!

Boaty did the same. Make sure you do not run into an unlit boat if you can.

[atoll]

Originally Posted by DoubleWhisky

May be I have a language problem here.

Rescue: to save (someone or something) from danger or harm

Merriam Webster

Is it proper to call JP action a rescue?
For the circumstances given it was only a tow arranged by owner of the boat to facilitate the quicker taking the becalmed boat to the harbour.
As I understand the Port Captain insisted that to deliver such a service the JP's boat must be inspected. JP decided to go without inspection, and was - as I understand - fined because of this.
Would he pretend going just for reconaissance on behalf of owner, and deciding to give a friendly tow after finding Boatman and realizing he just can get him into the harbour, may be he had not annoyed the authority.

But may be my reasoning is unproper and based on wrong understanding of the word rescue.

the guarda costeria or coast guard there ARE a rescue service,not a towing service.

JP over many years has been helping out yachts that arrive in the azores with broken engines and other problems ,
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JP has been able to fill that gap in the market so to speak,of towing people in so they can get their engines repaired who are not in distress.

up untill recently horta was the only place to get somthing fixed,so if you were stuck in flores with a broken engine, JP in the past would sail there and tow a vessel to horta to get fixed,

something the coast guard would laugh at you and say "call jp" if you asked them for a tow between islands

[DoubleWhisky]

Kindly suggest to stop all posting for a time, to let Boatman catch up.
If we don't he will never be able to start fixing things

Good night to all

Tomasz

[Coops]

What it might be good to do is to have less of the "who was right and who was wrong" posts. The deed is now done, if not dusted, and the only person who can truly give a verdict on that is Boaty. It was a great adventure for us to watch and read, and make conjectures about, so we can enjoy that and wait for the feelings of the man in the centre of it all.

Coops.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by roetter

Strange. Our BC ferries on the Pacific North West always call something like " Securite - Queen of Vancouver entering Active Pass south bound. Concerning vessels please contact on channel 16, 12" when they enter a narrow and winding passage. Nobody will send out the CG for a Securite. It is simply a warning for other vessels of a potential danger. In other words - Keep you eyes peeled!

Boaty did the same. Make sure you do not run into an unlit boat if you can.

Firstly hiya Phil good to hear you

Over this side , its the contents of a Securitate message, or any VHF message that matters not the fact it's a Securitate that determines whether rescue assets are deployed

So Securitate , floating log at xxxx, will not cause a launch , whereas Phil's one would more then likely cause one.

Dave


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[atoll]

Originally Posted by boatman61

STOP...... being trying to catch up on this thread and you lot are posting faster than I can read...
Every time I go to the next page there's 5 pages more...
Okay... headed out under the Causeway bridge at 12 noon the 19th and officially started the trip..
Ran N with the E winds.. no other choice,, got to around 29N before I picked up something to make some E'ing.. did not like the Electric Light Show for the next few nights so ran SW as soon as possible (no weatherfax on board.. just reading the Mare's Tails)
Generator died day 5 so shut down all electrics except for basics.. AP and nav lights as owner had said alternators were dubious.. all seemed good as was running engines AM and PM.. but was a Fools Dream as on day 13 the engines would not start.. no power in batteries.. solar panels were creating a temporary illusion.
Did consider running for SMX to get the Gennie fixed but the S winds were blowing so sweet they to me back a few years to when I skippered a sweet Caravel for Isabella.. got caught in a gale and blown N of the Indies.. found a S'ly passage that took us clear to Madeira... inspired me to pen a ditty 'Blow ye S Wind.. Blow.. carry me home to Cadiz...' later plagiarized by some damned Englishman...
Anyway.. the decision was now continue to Madeira another 1200 miles or run for Horta.. 500 miles closer.
Horta won.. and my record breaking to Europe went down the pan.
Took 10 days to get 630 miles.. on the 15th called the container vessel Praia for assistance as we were down to 2 litres of bottled water.. Florida water in the tanks had nasty growths and stomach cramps and vomiting.. awesome Captain.. turned his boat and came round to where I could sail up to him and take a line.. gifted us 12 one and a half litre bottles of water, fresh bread, apples, and 200 ciggies... and the Phillipino crew took thousands of pic's.. hope to get some..
Anyway.. he broadcast our situation on Navtex it seems and saviours were sent forth.. we met them 37 miles from Horta as we sailed in..
For those wondering about the stop-go towards the end.. light winds.. no power after sunset as the SP's were feeding the AP.. and at sunset the batteries were dumping the juice gained.. so I went to bed..
Folks.. I'm up to page 27 and loving the fact that its getting you guys thinking about how things work out there and various other **** like where the sexiest barmaids are..
Will post again but for now.. gotta go back to 27.. to good to stop..

thank god for that!

just one last thing..... can you move your boat 30 ft backwards......and smile

[Jim Cate]

Originally Posted by Coops

What it might be good to do is to have less of the "who was right and who was wrong" posts. The deed is now done, if not dusted, and the only person who can truly give a verdict on that is Boaty. It was a great adventure for us to watch and read, and make conjectures about, so we can enjoy that and wait for the feelings of the man in the centre of it all.

Coops.

Agreed and seconded, Coops.

Jim

[goboatingnow]

Praise that container ship.

Still can't figure why you couldn't raise the main phil

Ps awesome job on the weather routing without onboard data. We were all convinced you had a friggin bank of weather data on board.

Dave


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[Palarran]

Glad you made it Hank.

I'm buying you a beer at Café Sport . Relax a bit

[Tropic Cat]

Originally Posted by Andrew Troup

That makes sense if we interpret "Electric Issues" as lack of available DC amps

However an alternative interpretation (admittedly more rigorous and hence less fashionable) is that "Electric Issues" ultimately reflect excessive dependence on electricity.

In this case, (subject to clarification) potentially not just to start the motor, but to then use the motor to poke the vessel into the wind so as to get the mainsail up. (Which on large modern vessels may also rely on electric winches)

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The Lagoon 440 specifications take from a sister boat.

Mast Height 21,40m / 70’3”
Full-batten mainsail 74m²
1 electric winch 46.2 STCE starboard of helm for mainsail halyard, and reefing lines
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I think you called it, electric winches are required (preferred?) to raise the mainsail

[s/v Jedi]

sécurité

there, I fixed the thread

Sécurité - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Andrew Troup]

Originally Posted by Tropic Cat

The Lagoon 440 specifications take from a sister boat.

Mast Height 21,40m / 70’3”
Full-batten mainsail 74m²
1 electric winch 46.2 STCE starboard of helm for mainsail halyard, and reefing lines
________________________________

I think you called it, electric winches are required (preferred?) to raise the mainsail

I prefer a whip!

[atoll]

Originally Posted by atoll

no electric winches to pull up the sails?
no cold beer,must be hell out there!

my mate JP has offered to tow them in if needed,have given him phils mobile number so he can call once in range.
not too long now,weather is pretty much calm with light winds.

pg45 post627

@ tropicat i think i got there before andrew

[Cotemar]

Originally Posted by atoll

thank god for that!

just one last thing..... can you move your boat 30 ft backwards......and smile

I will 2nd what atoll said. 30 ft forewards will work also.

[captain465]

Electric problems may have been mitigated by carrying a GOOD battery jump start pack. Once an engine can be started using the jumper pack, cross connecting port to starboard engines may have been a help. of course, if batteries were toast anyway, only good for two or three tries.

Boatman61, If you get back to Fort Laauderdale, I would be happy to make your acquaintance, provide you with any transport needed, (I live aboard in the Las Olas Isles), and without a doubt, buy you all the rounds you can handle at the Downtowner!!!!!
(My ladyfriend will be along!!!,(just to dispel anyone that has a comment!)